Galio Build, Need Some Help

[quote=Re4XN]So, uh, hey there. I am writing a guide on [[Galio]] and I am currently testing items. I know what you should build when you face heavy AP comps, but what are your options regarding AD ones? This is a list of items I have considered (and tested) on him: - [[Thornmail]] (actually a good pick and has synergy with [[idol of durand]]); - [[Zhonya's Hourglass]] ([[seeker's armguard]] is good when facing AD laner); - [[Frozen Heart]] (seems good, but it reduces AS, thus reducing [[idol of durand]]'s damage); - [[Randuin's Omen]] (same as heart); - [[Sterak's gage]] (not sure about this one, AD is absolutely wasted, but the passive is not); - [[Warmog's Armor]] (should [[Galio]] EVER build this? He's a tank after all...); (not tested, need opinions): - [[Rod of Ages]]; - [[Righteous Glory]] Imagine that the enemy team has an AP top laner and you're stuck mid against an AD champion. You can't take advantage off of [[runic skin]], you NEED to get armour, or you'll get bursted to death. What items would you go for? I need to gather opinions, so if you'd be kind enough to reply with your thoughts, I'd appreciate it ^^[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy][[galio]] is known for his horrendous mana problems, the sooner you fix that the better. First, get [[chalice]], because you will need the mana everytime. Now, if you need armor in lane, get a [[chain vest]], otherwise skip it and get [[ionian boots of lucidity - distortion]]. This combined with the mastery makes the spell that makes [[galio]] playable way more often usable. Now I go for [[rod of ages]], this combined with [[chalice]] fixes the mana problems completly. After that I upgrade to [[athene's unholy grail]]. Next step is [[spirit visage]], a definitive core item on [[galio]]. Then, if you need armor, get yourself [[thornmail]]. The finaly item I would choose is [[rabadon's deathcap]], but if the enemy team has high resistances, [[void staff]] can be strong as well. Don't forget the high amount of ap on [[rabadon's deathcap]] increases your defense also by a high amount.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Dunno what the fuck you're on, friend, but [[Galio]]'s passive only converts MR to AP and the resistances on his shield don't scale with anything, AKA deathcap doesn't do jack for his "defense".[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Yeah, only the heal from [[Bulwark]] each time the target takes damage scales with AP, at a whopping 30% ratio.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]don't forget how it's 20% less effective each time the ally is damaged.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0][quote=The_Nameless_Bard]don't forget how it's 20% less effective each time the ally is damaged.[/quote] I was debating mentioning that, but this isn't a support guide and AP ratios are important. [[Abyssal scepter]] may potentially be a good purchase for the utility over the raw AP.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]It matters because each heal is 20% less effective than the last for each subsequent instance of damage (aka it stacks), meaning you reach a point where it does next to nothing very quickly.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Still, a heal is a form of survivability? And the maximum heal is 425 (+ 150% AP), with Spirit Visage 510 (+ 180% AP), with [[runic armor]] 544 (+ 192% AP).[/quote]

[quote=Ekki][quote=NicknameMy]the maximum heal is 425 (+ 150% AP), with Spirit Visage 510 (+ 180% AP), with [[runic armor]] 544 (+ 192% AP).[/quote]afaik it doesn't get to 0. I was under the impression that it got a x.8 scaling after each hit, instead of a -20% of initial value, since I remember to keep on healing even after several hits (I may be wrong though).[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]But it reduces by so much that it is basically 0.[/quote]