How to build AP Xin Zhao :o (Suggestions needed)

[quote=FalseoGod]Get those items, lich bane and a rabadon + barrier/heal and you can probably solo towers from full hp. If not, league of warmog's[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]You can easily solo Baron too[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Malady is core. Nashors is core. Guinsoos really gud, I remember when he was reworked people were using it on AD Xin too. I don't really know what else, though. DFG isn't great because you deal sustained damage with E R W QQQ E.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]oh damn im gonna try this in a norm[/quote]

[quote=Bellpepper]What about [[Liandry's Torment]] or [[Rod of Ages]]? I mean, both give Health, which you will need since you're buying just about no defensive stats. Liandrys also does more damage when your target is slowed by [[Audacious Charge]] or [[Rylai's Crystal Scepter]]. Only bad thing about RoA is that you would have to buy it fairly early for it to charge... :/[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I think, getting a [[warmog's armor]] first and then the AP is the way to go. You need enough survivability to even able to hit the enemy for the heal. I would say the second one should be [[guinsoo's rageblade]] because of the overall effectivity. Third would be [[malady]], because [[malady]] is without real AP not that effective. After that, I would build depending onto siutation. Either items with more HP or [[nashor's tooth]] for more attack speed. [[randuin's omen]] or [[runic bulwark]] are great defense items. For a mix of HP and damage, [[liandry's torment]] works. I would also say [[lich bane]] or [[iceborn gauntlet]] are a must. Full Offense: [items=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/item-purchase-planner#&item=65-40-88-83-74-84] Full Defense/Utility: [items=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/item-purchase-planner#&item=65-82-88-83-150-162] Balanced: [items=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/item-purchase-planner#&item=65-40-88-83-74-153][/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]I don't know, [[iceborn gauntlet]] really doesn't appeal me... I'll have to test. [[warmog's armor]], [[rod of ages]] do not either. He heals himself, so what you want is resistances not HP. And he needs to get his AP and CDR as quickly as he can because he is nothing without it... I feel like [[guinsoo's rageblade]]'s spell vamp + lifesteal is wasted. I also feel like it's not worth it because other items seem so much more important. For [[liandry's torment]], I should probably not talk about it because I highly dislike this item on most champions. I would never get that on [[xin zhao]] since the AoE of [[audacious charge]] is really small... Also, his ult already deals % of current HP so that kinda sucks for Liandry's passive. However he deals sustained damage so I might have to try it. [[lich bane]] is really in my favorites but I feel like [[malady]] and [[lich bane]] aren't really worth getting before you have at least [[rabadon's deathcap]]. Maybe it's just me. For now, my favorite build is: [[doran's ring]], [[boots of speed]], [[doran's ring]], [[nashor's tooth]] [[mercury's treads]], [[needlessly large rod]], [[malady]], [[sheen]], [[rabadon's deathcap]], [[lich bane]], [[guardian angel]]. With [[blue buff]] you have 40% CDR. Obviously, that's a very squishy build xD. I'd use that mid with MR Glyphs and Armor Seals. I can usually rape in lane.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, what do you want with resistances? In S3, most resistances get penetrated with ease anyway. There is a reason why people get [[warmog's armor]] on nearly any champ. And for Xin, he gets a good amount of resistances with his ultimate. With the combined amount of HP and resistances from ulti he can survive the initial burst and then start his healing game. The build which includes [[iceborn gauntlet]] is basically a tank AP Xin, which mainly focuses onto utility. Obviously, [[iceborn gauntlet]] offers more utility than [[lich bane]]. [[rabadon's deathcap]] I would get now aswell instead of [[guinsoo's rageblade]], but I would still get it last. At the place of [[guinsoo's rageblade]] I would get [[nashor's tooth]] then. Damage AP Xin: [items=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/item-purchase-planner#&item=65-40-84-83-74-115] Utility AP Xin: [items=http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/item-purchase-planner#&item=65-82-84-83-150-162][/quote]

[quote=Bellpepper][quote=DarkPercy] For [[liandry's torment]], I should probably not talk about it because I highly dislike this item on most champions. I would never get that on [[xin zhao]] since the AoE of [[audacious charge]] is really small... Also, his ult already deals % of current HP so that kinda sucks for Liandry's passive. However he deals sustained damage so I might have to try it. [/quote] But Liandrys + Rylai's makes it so the proc does double damage on every autoattack you do doesn't it? That would make it 10% of his current health which is really strong... only problem is -> if you initiate with Audacious charge and then hit an Autoattack will the Liandrys proc do 10% or 5% dmg (because Charge is AoE)[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I don't think either Liandry's or Rylai's proc with item/mastery damage, they proc only with spell damage.[/quote]