So, how we gonna build dat grail :P

[quote=Arcana3]With the new Grail coming out, I wanna know how everyone is going to build it. Since I have a strict way in which im going to build something I'm having a hard time on were im going to place the item. Well not really the grail, but the items in which make the grail. Fendish Codex, is just somewhat bad in my opinion. I never bother building it on anyone now since, you don't need it for DFG. Chalice of Harmony, is were I see this item being really good. But I have no idea, where im going to place that item. For example on [[Lux]] we all know that you gotta have pure damage all day for [[lux]] to shine. It sorrta has the same argument as RoA. I'm thinking of putting it after Lich Bane in my build. For on other champions such as, Ahri, im thinking of putting chalice as my first item after boots. Also with trying to find a place for chalice, would this not increase the viability of a full MR set even more?[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]I imagine everyone is going to build it on every single AP and it's going to be horrible.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]I will build on [[Lux]]: [[Boots of Speed]], [[Kage's Lucky Pick]], [[Chalice of Harmony]], [[Sorcerer's Shoes]], [[Rabadon's Deathcap]], [[Lich Bane]], [[Deathfire Grasp]], [[Athene's Holy Grail]], [[Void Staff]]. Glass cannon all the way ;D[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]If you want to build it at all, you have to have low CDs, mid level mana costs(or a constant effect) and decent killing power. [[Swain]] and [[Anivia]] are prime subjects for it as well as champs with weaker early games because [[Chalice of harmony]] gives MR to win trades. Of course, it's a #1 item for [[Galio]].[/quote]

[quote=BusDriver210]I'm putting it on [[Veigar]], but thats about it for me.[/quote]

[quote=The Funky Judge]Can someone link information as to what Athene's Holy Grail is actually going to be, or is planned to be, or just say what it's stats are. I've obviously been living under a rock and haven't even heard of it. O.o[/quote]

[quote=Turbo Punz][center][color=#00ff00][h1][b]IF YOU BUILD GRAIL ON EVERY AP CHAMP[/b][/h1][/color][/center] [center][img=http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/275/619/fe9.png][/center] [center][color=#00ff00][h1][b]YOU"RE GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME[/b][/h1][/color][/center][/quote]

[quote=iownedya]There is a new item? I gotta start knowing what is going on around me...[/quote]

[quote=caucheka]athene's unholy grail. 80 ap, 40 mr, 15mp5, 15% cdr Passive: restores 12% of max mana on kill or assist unique passive: increases your mana regen by 1% per 1% mana you are missing. does not stack with chalice of harmony builds from [[chalice of harmony]], [[fiendish codex]], [[amplifying tome]] i say [[swain]], [[anivia]], [[galio]] really. otherwise i would hardly build it.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Can't wait to use it on Lux, maybe Veigar too. Looks to me it fills exactly the role that the old Morello's was supposed to fill. AP/mp5/CDR and it gives a bunch of MR to boot. MR is pretty hard to come by on mages (the only MR/AP item being [[Abyssal Scepter]], excluding lich). 15% CDR is also a near-perfect amount. Combined with [[sorcery]] and blue buff, you'll be at 39%. You can use blue elixir when blue buff is down (grail helps sustain your mana too). Sure, it might be over-used, but that doesn't mean I'm not excited to try it and slip it into a couple core builds.[/quote]