Yuumi Build Guide : [WIP] Yuumi - Catching enemies like fish.

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Doesn’t Yuumi’s empowered Q also activate Font of life since it slows when empowered. You say it only works with Yuumi’s ult.

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after many experiments i found to be very useful especially against high cc enemies like , paired with can be really annoying for enemy team.
pure cancer healer
try it and tell me your results

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Hey Ahmad791,
thank you for your comment. It's true that can be quite annoying for the enemies. In my opinion it's not as strong as but it might be a matchup-related rune that balances mainly against certain enemies like well. I had tried it out in the past which is why it's in the alternativ runes section (below the mentioned most viable runes). :]

Cheers, Wicked Cherry.

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Hey!

I know I suggested the rune in your guide. But here's another thing you can change from it.

Instead of , you can change it to , since this rune became so useful. You will have a lot of vision control. Quite risky to go alone on a ward, but it transforms into even if you stay next to it and the ADC attacks it.

is a second choice tho.

These where my words. ^.^

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Hey TheFwnK,
the runes you mentioned are quite strong. However, if you're swapping with either of these, you'd miss out on quite a bit of AP damage. But I'll think about a first tree build in which you might be able to pick the mentioned runes and see how that works. :)

Thanks for the suggestions.
Wicked Cherry.

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as first three you say?
Well, is quite bad on and only can be activated with her Ultimate. You can activate it with hits Q and some autos. But very risky and ends up with death.

could be better.
2nd
3rd //
Last , the others are useless.

As 2nd rune depends. I can make some if you want.

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Hi Wicked Cherry! I've never seen such detailed synergies in a guide before so I really have to applaud you for that. This is a really great guide +1 +1 +1. The only thing I'd change is some tweaking of the build.

For example, you said yourself that Yuumi has one of the lowest healths in the game and explained that that's why Cut Down is so good, but in your primary rune page you don't take Cut Down. I think that that's definitely a must. And if you're taking Cut Down, you should get rid of those unnecessary health items like Liandry's, Rylai's and definitely Zeke's which I feel Yuumi will rarely get any use out of. Deathcap and Luden's are great AP items for Yuumi and grant no health increase.

Your guide is super detailed so I don't think you need 4 rune page setups in the cheat sheet just for the different secondary runes. Instead, I think you should include an Arcane Comet page which is also a fairly common keystone.

Finally I think Mejai's is pretty standard on Yuumi, much more than just an aggressive option, I think it deserves a spot in the example build/core, unless the game is a clear loss. Also I see that you recommend selling it later in the game but you should definitely not do that when you have high stacks late game as that is the whole point of the item. There's literally no better item to take up its slot in the late game.

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Hey Jovy,
thank you so much for your kind words.

You're certainly right about and putting it as primary rune page. Once I find the time I will definitely change that. , and are mostly situational picks that can be good against certain matchups but they're not really items of choice. I haven't done a good job in tagging that, will also change that in the (hopefully near) future. Thanks for pointing that out.

I've been tinkering with the old and and it didn't feel as good as - probably because of the shield improvement. However, I didn't pick up Shurelya's back then which might work well with . But I'll have to try that out first before I suggest it in my guide.

Selling in late game was mostly for buying or when you're losing suddenly for picking up some situational sustain items, such as or . It's a bit difficult to explain since it's very situational but I'll make sure to be more clear about it. Of course, it would not be very clever to sell a fully stacked Mejai's.

Thanks again for the helpful suggestions and your kind words. And sorry for the late reply. I'll definitely change these three things soon. :]

All the best, Wicked Cherry.

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Nice guide, the synergies part really helped me know which situations to pick yuumi and when to not. Since you can only have 1 control ward on the map at a time, where do you think would be the most important place to ward?

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Hey ecl1p3e,
thank you for your very kind words. :)

About your question.. That actually depends on a lot of things. For example the state of your game: Are you winning or losing or going equal? Is it early, mid or late game? Are you starting from the red or blue side of the map? Is or soon up? Things like that.
Personally, I think it's important to keep in mind that just because a helped you in a certain spot 5 minutes ago doesn't mean that it'll help you after that much longer. Repositioning your wards, including the pink one, is quite important. If there's objectives coming up soon, you will want vision dominance on that if possible or at least in some sneaky spot close to it. If you're trying to pick up enemies in their jungle, you will want that area warded. As you can see, it depends a lot on your team combo as well. It's quite hard to answer your question but generally, try to keep vision around objectives would be my advice. You can also change the positions of your wards and I'd strongly advice doing that.

I hope I could help you out a little bit. If there's any more open questions, feel free to ask. :]
Cheers, Wicked Cherry.

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Hello there Wicked Cherry, here is the review you requested.

click for review

This is probably what I'd be considering as a "decent" guide in terms of depth and quality. You've gone far with the gameplay stuff and it shows that time has been put into it and the basic info & formatting is mostly there. Other than some of the potential improvements I suggested in my review, I think the biggest goal here for your guide that I'd recommend to focus on is expanding the depth of information you have, especially for the Gameplay section. I am with 100% certainty sure that there are definitely more things that you can do in a game as a so I think bringing out that information to teach people more about the role will eventually let people evolve as a player or as any other champion for the role.

I hope you find the review helpful and good luck with the guide!

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I didn't see Nasus in the "synergies" section, why? They are very strong combo.

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Hey Veketal,
thank you for your question. You're right, they're a good combo. Sadly I don't really find much time to update or improve my guides lately (taken aside minor things). is pretty good with any tankyish and frontline CC champion. I'll add to my to do list for the synergies and try to work on that one as soon as I managed to find the time. I ultimately plan (or rather dream?) to have all champions in the synergy chapter, but when I started with it I was mainly focusing on synergies that caught my eye instantly and ADCs.

Thanks for your comment!
Cheers, Wicked Cherry.

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I know I commented already, but I came here while I was working on my guide to finish the Spells Chapter. To tell you about the of course.

Here's the thing with . The reduce damage does affect mostly on his ultimate . But here's a catch... is useless against since the damage reduce does not affect him when your health is red and can be executed. His Ultimate turns instantly into Lethality damage instead of AD when executing you. The thing is that when succeded executing and there are allies right in the X area, he will not deal AD damage, will deal Lethality instead!!!
Meaning this, DO NOT TAKE EXHAUST AGAINST HIM!

Same thing is to when holding 's Ultimate. Well, I'm not really sure about that. Since his ultimate against Lethality Ultimates are quite confusing. Mostly 's Ultimate. I will try to investigate and give you the information when I find the answer.

and are the best spells against him. I think you should add this information in your topic. Is quite important for players that don't really know about .

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Hey TheFwnK,

Thanks for mentioning that matter. However, I'm already discussing this matter in the specific threats chapter in 's spoiler in the spells category in which I'm also advising to take and against him.
But I've just recently learned that is pretty useless against 's ultimate because it ignores all shields.

I won't add the information in my general spells chapter since it's a guide about and not and I've already mentioned it in the section about . So I hope you'll understand my decision. Thanks for commenting and discussing this though. I'm sure your comment will help other players. :)

Cheers, Wicked Cherry.

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Always a pleasure. ^.^
Totally did not forgot that I was the one who said that you should take against him a while ago. >.>

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I had a discussion with another friend a little while ago and he told me that you can't shield the damage from . is generally a pocket pick against because if he's visible, he can't heal back his grey health and takes this invisibility from him, resulting him to not being able to heal back. That's why these two summoner spells are like the perfect counter-play spell-wise regarding in my opinion. :)

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That's what i said a while ago too. xD

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Hey again!
Can't escape me it seems.
In the updates chapter, you can code it as spoilers to make it not that big of a text. Some people will get their computers burned because their pc couldn't generate the text fast enough. Happened with my phone on my guide. xD
This is just an idea because soon, your updates chapter will be great for book full of 250 pages with text. 🐱
Again, just an idea. :3

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Hey TheFwnK,
thanks for the idea and inspiration. I didn't know such things could happen but you're right, the change log just seems to be growing. So it's probably best to put it into a spoiler. I'll do that. Thanks again!

Cheers, Wicked Cherry.

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Always a pleasure! ^.^

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I see you have health potions in your initial items. Have you tried control ward instead of them? I've been using control ard instead of health potions and am curious if I've been less efficient because of that.

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Hey Rcyuumi,
thank you for your comment!

I'm pretty sure you're not missing out. The s are mentioned mainly for newer or more aggressive players. I usually last well to mid game with these potions. But s are pretty nice for early vision, especially if you're up against a or jungle for instance.

So it actually depends on your play style and how satisfied you are with your general early game. I usually find that I'm making not enough gold in my early game, so I usually focus on aggressiveness which also exposes my cat to more (potential) damage because you don't want to rely on alone for poking early, especially when your mana drains so fast. Some comments ago, I was discussing that matter with someone and the player said that they even bought two s as first items. But you can also just buy a and safe the rest of the gold for other items.
By any means, you're not 'less effecient' just because you're not in need of these two pots. :)

Hope your question is answered. Feel free to ask more and share your opinion. ♥
Cheers, Wicked Cherry.

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I absolutely love the amount of effort you put into this guide!

How do you feel about guardian on Yuumi? I personally feel like Guardian + font + secondwind + revitalize + manaflow + gathering storm is a great page for her

Also how do you feel about Relic Shield on Yuumi? I feel like I can reliably complete my quest faster with this item (I play alot of Lulu too, and I never take spellthiefs on her anymore)

Would Rapidfire cannon be troll for 5th/6th item? (more bop and block shield uptime)

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Hey Coffee009!

Thank you so much for your very kind and warm words! :3

I'm sure and the other mentioned runes make sense on her if you're looking for more sustain. However, in my experience 's amount of health and hence is her health bar drained way too fast to make big use of . But if it works well for you then by all means keep using it. :)

Personally, I like my cat a bit more aggressive. But of course that comes with some weaknesses as well - you're mainly lacking sustain for yourself. But then again.. is more like a giving type of champion than a taker, if you like to think in that kind of concept. She's way better healing and peeling for others than to fend for herself. That's also one of the reasons why I even suggest runes in my guide - well and because scales with AP. :>

I haven't ever tried to be fully honest, but I do not quite think that it would help you that much. scales with AP mainly, even though you can build it if you have a fed AD to actually improve their stats even more. But I'm not quite sure I would recommend it. There's other items that may be more attractive to you (like for instance) than . But if you really like that item and you find yourself in late game wondering which item to build as last one (definately last item if at all), I suppose it's not gonna hurt. But it probably comes down to which items you already got and how the match has evolved.

So I hope I could help you a bit.
Thanks again for commenting. ♥

Cheers, Wicked Cherry.

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You'll have toughts from me to ask you for banners for (hope its ok with you xd). Me making a guide on a real support that supports you everytime? I know I'm a main that takes your kill and the adc pings you a lot. But now I see the perspective on a real support. The academy yuumi skin looks like my real cat. xD
Tbh, her icon cracks me everytime when i see her, because her face looks like she is triggered.
Also, really beautiful guide. :D
Oh, don't forget to make her counters like or (or , she can kill you too). Those supports ain't big of a deal. But her biggest counter is one of my mains. xD
Ban ! Can ult you almost on full health. He is your worst nightmare!

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Hey TheFwnK,
thank you for taking your time to read my guide.
I mentioned in the "to do list" chapter that the match up section will follow soon. However university is keeping me pretty busy right now which means my spare time is kinda limited down to the evenings. But yeah, I got that on my mind and it's coming for sure.
About your request, maybe just write my a PM about your request and we'll see how we solve it. :)

Cheers, Wicked Cherry.

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You got a good point there. Also, have you tried a different design on the guide? I'm not saying because its ugly or something. But I get a little bit of touch of Lulu around here. xD
Or you are like me, 0 ideas. xDD
Still, cannot wait to see my on the first threat. c:
Oh, yeah. My opinion, you should put as early item. Because when you poke on your lane the support or the bot laner, you can heal your ally with so much health (when you collected a lot of blood of course). Just saying my opinion on the early item. xD
Or you can make early items #2. :D

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I've actually been thinking about putting into the core build but honestly this item is kind of not in my regular build. However I think it works extremely well with so I might as well just change it. :) Thanks for the hint.

About the style:
Well this is the kind of style that I like and am happy with which isn't always so easy. x]'
So I will most likely not change the general layout with the dividers and so on. However I'm planning to add some more precise tips on 's playstyle. Soon. I hope.. :)

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For me, I saved a lot of lifes with from death. Tbh, that item can counter 's ult (,) but you need to have a very fast reaction. But it depends. If you are doing a mistake like, getting of your adc by accident. Well... He can easily make you a new graveyard.
Also, just thinking. I think it's a great idea to go with (or ) instead of , because most of the match you will poke just with an Q and heal everybody. Why I'm saying ( when they have a team based on AD) instead of ? The dmg doesn't really matter on in my opinion, but because she is very squishy and need some armor/magic resist. She can literally die in 2-3 hits. Depends on the type of the enemy. Why protection? To live of course. :3
She can easily escape from death with and some (because she gains not just heal, but she gains speed).

About the style:
To be honest, the guide is based on everyone's idea. Doesn't really matter the look on the guide. But still, looks beautiful. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

P.S: You are getting better at making the design on your banners. Keep it up with that. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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I think it really comes down to one's play style in the end. Like I generally prefer over and would probably mostly only buy it for but never on or unless I need an ability power scaling item that also provides magic resistance. However, it makes sense on (which is why I also added it to the final example build) because falls off a bit at late game. So ability power scaling items would help her to deal enough damage with her Q, . But I noticed I had only added two items to the core build, so I'll add . :)
The thing about Twin Shadows is that you probably would only want to get it when you're winning and you'll have to chase the enemies for kills or they have more gap closers or you'd need a little something to start a team fight. With the additional ability power that it's providing, it's definitely an item you should consider. I don't think would die because of this item because your main task in team fights is to keep your carries alive and deal some damage and provide vision. So basically you can do everything while attached or you'll do your tasks quickly and then just attach yourself to an ally before being attacked too much. Also, I put and both as optional items. While the first is a rather protective one, the second one is for a more aggressive play style. But again, it all comes down to so many things, such as the match up, is your team ahead or behind, do you wanna play aggressively or passively.

About the style of the guide:
I'm not sure I understand what you mean with "based on everyone's idea".
I mean I'm not some pro when it comes to coding but I guess I can do the basics. And that's what my guide looks like in the end. I like to think of it that way: I created a guide to share experiences and knowledge with other people who are interested. The layout and looks are mainly the thing that should make the reader keep reading and make me happy. Because I picked the pictures, edited them and put them into my guide, although I'm not so happy with all of them, but it's okay for a start I reckon.
I also like that you can tell by reading my , and guide that they were created by the same person. And honestly, I think that in type of character that and are somewhat alike: a bit sneaky and wicked but happy to help everyone who's on their side. :)
But thank you for your suggestions.

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True on the gameplay. It depends on the play style or the match.

With the suggestions. No problem. :D

About coding.
What do you mean not some pro? You are some at good level. About me on coding? Still struggling on how do I code my Table of Contents to get you into an topic like ex. Runes. (What I want to say clearly is. You press on the Runes and it scrolls down there.)
Also, when you will make the synergies and threats, put at low level in synergies. His dmg is 0 on early. I got in my match and I already lost my lane because they had more dmg than my rat. Not a perfect combination in my opinion. >.<

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You'll have to put anchors in the chapter you want it to scroll and goto tags in the table of contents. I'll send you a PM with the more detailed explanation.

Thanks but I'm really not that great with it. I just happened to use BB Coding for a bit longer than you probably.

Well as low synergy candidate makes a lot of sense. As well as probably because they're both super late game. You'll just have to play pretty passively and be camped by your jungler to get to late game. I feel that champions like , or even s are way better synergy picks because they can already dish out some more damage than super late scaling ADCs. :)

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I'll see what can I do.

Also, can kill with at full hp (it depends, if he has , then he can one shot her). So, it means first at extreme tier. So you know what does that means. Insta ban in 's description.

About ADC:
is a good choice with too. Her damage is good in early.

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is bad on her lane with [champions that deals 0 dmg in early):

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I think would really be fun to support as well because of her ult.
To be honest, I think somewhat opens the door for no standard ADCs on bot, like , , and others, maybe even , or . But I'll have to take an sight in that first. :)

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Forgot about . But I think she is not considered adc. The most pick rate for her is on TOP. on Bot, meh... He is useless when he faces in the enemy team. ? He is good but very low pick rate. But when gets those champs you said in the description. Well... It depends more on your ADC. Most of your job is to heal and poke them. And be sure you have an adc that is good on his role. Because when I play or support, I get brain dead adc every time.

Also, I like that you are creating guides based just on supports. Because is your favorite role, of course. If you somehow decide to create an guide. You already know who to get informations about him. :)
Or maybe I will create a guide based on him. Soon!

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Of course she is. Just because she wasn't played much on bot throughout the last two seasons doesn't mean it's impossible or she can't be called 'ADC'. Also, I wasn't talking about pick rates but possible synergy match ups. There's a difference. Just because your champion has an ideal synergy with another champion doesn't mean you would see it as classical match up. :)

Well I don't plan to create another guide soon. But since you seem to like talking about him, why don't you create one? I think that's a pretty good idea. ^^

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Yeah. It depends on who is play with him.

Why don't I create a guide on him? Well, I want to make one. But I need the banners. And I will ask you for banners when you have time. Because the guide will be so loooong. Will put so many runes with him or something about him, etc. And I want to make the guide for all lanes. Every rune is perfect with him.
Pretty good idea am I right? ^^
Oh, you said it first (I think that's a pretty good idea. ^^). :c

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Haha sure. I mean you don't need the banners for a start. Piling up all the different information and stuff will take a lot of time I reckon. :)
Anyway, we're not really discussing the guide rn so why not head to PN?

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Because our brains didn't think about that.

[WIP] Yuumi - Catching enemies like fish.

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