Shyvana Theorycraftin'

[quote=BusDriver210][quote=DuffTime]I'm thinkin' this may be the best build~ Wriggle's / Wit's end / Warmogg's / (TF or GA) / (Madred's or TF or GA) Pretty dayumn strong, both in survivability and damage, and her kit seems to support it well ^^[/quote] [quote=DuffTime]Someone should give that build I listed a try, I have a feeling it's the business :)[/quote] Ok. So her jungle is strong. She has MASSIVE DPS early - midgame, even without wriggles. The champion itself can deal a great deal of damage, but she has no real slow or CC. This makes catching certain characters very difficult and kiting is a big issue. Listed below is the build I used. Yes it is very generic, but it also works extremely well. With a half decent team you can become a very big threat. [list] [*][[Wriggle's Lantern]] [*][[Mercury's Treads]] [*][[Wit's End]] [*][[frozen Mallet]] [*][[Atma's impaler]] [*][[Force of Nature]][/list] Lots of things can be traded and swapped. [[Trinity Force]] is simply a must for you go hards types, it makes her Q ridiculous. I have heard [[Tiamat]] + cleave has stupid big AOE damage right now. (Please abuse!) I feel this champion can be summed up by saying "You need [[phage]] early." The DPS is there, but her ult's push is pretty lackluster. I bought phage once I had wriggles and basic boots.[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse]Dunno where you get that. Trinity is the same on her as on everyone else who can keep it on cd. And Tiamat is worth a thought, but you cant use it in combination with crit so if you rly wanna abuse youre cleave imo crit is the way. Also: Youre build is rly tanky but you juggle with some items. So youre trying to say that you should go tanky but also switch things out making you way less tanky?[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Those items look pretty good but I wonder if you'll have enough survivability? I feel like if you want the slow then Triforce is probably the way to go but Frozen Mallet could work wonders as well. I would still probly buy the Warmogg's though lol. My mallet build might be Wit's end, Warmogg's, GA, Frozen Mallet, Madred's.... Big tanky.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]Well let's theorycraft so far: jungle 15/0/15 9x [[greater mark f alacrity]] 9x [[greater seal of resilience]] 9x [[greater glyph of shielding]] 2x [[greater quintessence of alacrity]] 1x [[greater quintessence of swiftness]] [[wriggle's lantern]] [[mercury's treads]] [[phage]] [[wit's end]] [[twinity force]] [[atma's impaler]] [[warmog's armor]] ([[sunfire cape]] if you wanna build tankier) sell lantern do whatever, never actually got to sell lantern jungle route wolves, have either mid or top do damage on them after you take aggro golem, hard leash wraits minigolem, because smite ain't up lizard gratz u're nw lvl 4 and is 3:30 into the game[/quote]

[quote=JunSupport]Anyone try [[Tiamat]] yet? It's suppose to be pretty good. [[Twin Bite]] is an AoE proc in Dragon form too, so that's likely some super intense damage in close-quarters team fights.[/quote]

[quote=ColbyJak]I'm not really sure why anyone would build her ap at all. Her E and R stack with ap but not enough to set a build around it. Going tanky/dps is the only way to go. I jungle with her and usually always reach lvl4 before the solo lanes do. Wriggles Beserker greaves wit's end Phantom dancer and then you could go the warmog/atma's route if the situation calls for it. if the game drags on even further I would probably switch wriggles to bloodthirster and wit's end to another phantom... not sure. My Masteries are 21/0/9, but I'm not positive about them yet. Runes are 9x ArmPen marks, 9x Flat Arm seals, 9x Attack Speed Glyphs, and 3x ArmPen Quints. Hope I helped![/quote]

[quote=Darcurse][quote=JunSupport] Anyone try [[Tiamat]] yet? It's suppose to be pretty good. [[Twin Bite]] is an AoE proc in Dragon form too, so that's likely some super intense damage in close-quarters team fights. [/quote] Use crit instead. Btw: In human form your 2nd hit on Twin Bite doesnt crit even while proccing on-hits ? Somebody knows if this is a bug or on purpose? (Guess, its the latter, though) @ColbyJak You forgot that youll deal 15% dmg of Flame Breath on every autohit while your target is debuffed. (passiv) But i guess even that´s just worth one cleave.[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe][quote=Darcurse] @ColbyJak You forgot that youll deal 15% dmg of Flame Breath on every autohit while your target is debuffed. (passiv) But i guess even that´s just worth one cleave. [/quote] wich means you do 1 damage more for every 100 AP shit's OP[/quote]

[quote=Darcurse][quote=ZioSerpe] ... wich means you do 1 damage more for every 100 AP shit's OP [/quote] nah 0.09dmg/1AP = 9 dmg for 100 AP But like i said... Lets say youll end up with 300 ap late game and cleave 3 champs with Dragon Flame Breath/Twin Bite.. results in 3x 27 bonus dmg (YEHAW!!!!). But youll wind up with 40dmg anyway thx to FBs base dmg. They even nerfed it from orginal 20%... Even if they didnt want to make AP/Tanks beat the living shit out of you, giving you the same bonus dmg from scaling like Wits End wouldnt be game breaking.[/quote]

[quote=marisi][[wriggle's lantern]][[mercury's treads]][[trinity force]][[wit's end]][[warmog's armor]][[atma's impaler]] After finishing this build, swap [[wriggle's lantern]] for [[hextech gunblade]][/quote]