A Flash Free Season Three!

[quote=DillButt64]i dont think it should be removed but maybe nerf the CD on it enough so that it isnt in every single game, but even then itll still be picked a lot honestly i dont even have a problem with flash at all, if they flash you can flash too or use a gap closer, but the spells i do have a problem with are teleport and ghost, teleport because of the fact that its almost impossible to push against someone with teleport unless you harass them enough to make them recall right after and ghost because it lasts a decent amount of time but still flash may be over used but it is in no way "op"[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]broken yet so many ppl still fail with it :D.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]haha great idea, good luck! No way am I giving up my [[flash]] + [[curse of the sad mummy]] or [[flash]] + [[unstoppable force]] or [[flash]] + [[infinite duress]] 8D :P[/quote]

[quote=koksei]100% agree, make it a blink dagger like at dota, ridiculusly low CD - like 20sec I think. BUT can't use while being attacked, would still be op for Maokai and shit, so probably make the CD 300 & I'd still keep the "non-usable while being attacked" effect[/quote]

[quote=Ommadawn]I don't want to see Flash removed. This is League of Gap Closers, Blinks and Dashes. The spell is necessary for Riot to be able to design champions without such mobility tools. However other Spells clearly need to be brought up to Flash's usefullness for them to be considered. That's how Riot should be looking to balance Flash. How about combining Cleanse and Ghost, increasing the speed bonus while lowering the duration and cooldown? Or significantly lowering the cooldown of Heal so it's not complete insanity to use it outside of an engagement? Why not combine it with Clarity while we're at it? How about making Surge not completely blow by increasing the AS burst and changing the AP bonus to AD? Promote is probably beyond help at this point. All that said I'd love to see how the game would work without Flash, so I wish the OP all the best in his quest/test. Maybe a "Flash Free" tournament to see how the games pan out?[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]@KoreanSP: Thanks. Changes might be extreme but some champs deserve compensation for the [[Flash]] removal/rework. @TehAsian: Who says I'm not tryharding? Planning to get 2.2k without [[Flash]]! @Dillbutt64: Everything that is overused (in high elo/tournaments) is regarded OP or too strong (e.g. [[Deathfire Grasp]], [[Ezreal]], [[Sona]], etc.). [[Flash]] is used 100% of the time yet RIOT won't touch it? Consistency please. The point of [[Flash]] is that it nearly counters everything: skillshots, awful positioning, range, [[Exhaust]], [[Heal]]-bait, [[Ignite]] (somewhat), etc and there is no downside to it. @A Chubby Baby: Some people are just hopeless :P @jhoijhoi: Exactly combos I hate and which are pretty much uncounterable if executed properly. Fun to use, extremely frustrating to play against because skill really has no part in it. @Koksei: sounds reasonable but 300s is too high. 30 sec would be acceptable, at least it forces people to think ahead. @Ommadawn: no gap-closer champs deserve some kind of compensation for it. A no-[[Flash]] tournament sounds interesting, I might use that. [rule] Another acceptable change would to give [[Flash]] a decent casting time or turn it into a dash ability instead of a blink. Make it less instant. Give others a time to respond.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]You're gonna ruin the game ._.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Embracing] You're gonna ruin the game ._. [/quote] Why? Because I want the game to have more strategic depth? Because I force people to ward better and to have better positioning? The only thing [[Flash]] does is reposition your champion, hence it saves you from bad positioning. If you shouldn't be in that position the first place that means you made a bad play so [[Flash]] fixes bad play. Bringing it into an item or change it radically would make it more balanced and would make the game more fun.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]I agree that [[Flash]] is just a spell to make up for a mistake. Which is why I like it so much, I'm a real baddie and that's that.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=IceCreamy] I agree that [[Flash]] is just a spell to make up for a mistake. Which is why I like it so much, I'm a real baddie and that's that. [/quote] Haha +rep earned :P[/quote]