Need some tips to improve as a main support player

[quote=Fanp]Hey guys, my main position is support and i'm trying to reach gold ASAP, Can someone give me some tips to improve my gameplay? P.S: I always Duo Queue with my team ADC.[/quote]

[quote=Kazega][[ruby Sightstone]] always, and ward the other side's jungle exit and dragon (on blue side this can be done with a single ward) Race to level 2 by pushing the waves up to that point, you should help but be careful not to mess up the partners last hits. Beating your opponents to level 2 is a huge advantage. Take the lead in lane: your job is to capitalize on the other guys' mistakes, the ADC should follow up on your engages, not the other way around. on that not your ADC should be close enough to follow up, it does you no good to engage when your ADC is a half screen away. Help push the lane when appropriate: if one or both of your opponents are MIA/Dead you should getting minions to the tower ASAP to force lost gold.[/quote]

[quote=Darealone]^^ This. Also, since supports get more gold now, try to get a [[mikael's crucible]] if the other team has hard CC (such as a [[Leona]]). Get a [[sweeping lens]] once you finish your [[sightstone]].[/quote]

[quote=Kazega]Also stay away from [[spellthief's edge]]. [[Ancient coin]] is much better on non-tank supports by a long shot.[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy]Spellthief's Edge is only good on [[Sona]] and [[Lulu]] imo. As for picks, you gotta go for tanky CC ([[Leona]], [[Thresh]], [[Alistar]]) or full damage ([[Annie]], [[Lulu]], [[Karma]]). Most traditional supports are now midlaners :P Ofc [[Sightstone]] is mandatory on each. For tanky CC champs, buy [[Locket of the Iron Solari]] and [[Randuin's Omen]], items like that. For full damage champs, well, buy damage. Depends per champ. Playstyle... keep wards up in crucial places, and get experience by playing a lot, to know match-ups. It'll help you learning whether or not you can go for a fight. Later on, keep warding/clearing wards, and try to protect your carry! I see so many people leaving the carry on their own to die to some [[Dr. Mundo]]...[/quote]

[quote=Satella][quote=IceCreamy] Spellthief's Edge is only good on [[Sona]] and [[Lulu]] imo. [/quote] You can't really start it (or you will get rekt in an all-in), and buying it first back is really bad because you won't get to harass enough afterward to make it worth getting over [[Talisman of Ascension]]. It's really annoying that you're pretty much forced to buy the talisman if no one else on your team is getting it, because if your team doesn't have the active and the enemy does, engaging and disengaging become way harder.[/quote]

[quote=tehAsian]Omg Satella you're alive [quote=Kazega] [[ruby Sightstone]] always, and ward the other side's jungle exit and dragon (on blue side this can be done with a single ward) [/quote] Sightstone is no longer mandatory with the new gold flow; you'll have more than enough money for wards each back. The other side's jungle exit/dragon isn't a must-Ward, especally not in solo queue. Always Ward both River bush and Tri, regardless of if you're purple or blue. If you can, dedicate pinks to Tri.[/quote]

[quote=EdisonKhoo][quote=tehAsian] Omg Satella you're alive [/quote] +rep xD[/quote]

[quote=XeresAce]Eh people up to gold III seem to be stupid enough to get poked down so you can start spellthief if you feel confident :P I always get the opposite effect: If I start spellthief people are afraid of trading but if I start shield people are like OOOO BETTER ENGAGE WHILE I STARTED WITH COIN, I'LL DEFFO WIN THAT TRADE I assume things aren't much better at silver V so go ahead and buy what you feel like buying =D Also, only get sightstone on champs that benefit from the tankyness I completely forgo it on zyra, annie and karma.[/quote]

[quote=Fanp]First thanks for the feedback and tips. [quote=Kazega] [[ruby Sightstone]] always, and ward the other side's jungle exit and dragon (on blue side this can be done with a single ward) Race to level 2 by pushing the waves up to that point, you should help but be careful not to mess up the partners last hits. Beating your opponents to level 2 is a huge advantage. Take the lead in lane: your job is to capitalize on the other guys' mistakes, the ADC should follow up on your engages, not the other way around. on that not your ADC should be close enough to follow up, it does you no good to engage when your ADC is a half screen away. Help push the lane when appropriate: if one or both of your opponents are MIA/Dead you should getting minions to the tower ASAP to force lost gold. [/quote] Every i saw many mistake's in soloQ that their adc or supp do, since i play ranked team games, i saw so many bad postion by their support. I'm really quite good to see other people mistakes xD Yeah i always try to rush ruby [[sightstone]] since i play 80% with Tank supports. I need to focus in the last thing you said, never thought about the gols they will lose if they are mia/dead. Thank you for the tip :) [quote=Darealone] ^^ This. Also, since supports get more gold now, try to get a [[Mikael's Crucible]] if the other team has hard CC (such as a [[Leona]]). Get a Sweeping Lens once you finish your [[Sightstone]]. [/quote] I always get Sweeping Lens after finish [[sightstone]] (god bless xpecial stream), but i never use [[Mikael's Crucible]] but now that i think it's seems a good choice, i must try this next time against a [[Leona]] or a hard CC team. [quote=Icecreamy] As for picks, you gotta go for tanky CC ( [[Leona]], [[Thresh]], [[Alistar]]) or full damage ( [[Annie]], [[Lulu]], [[Karma]]). Most traditional supports are now midlaners :P Ofc Sightstone is mandatory on each. For tanky CC champs, buy [[Locket of the Iron Solari]] and [[Randuin's Omen]], items like that. For full damage champs, well, buy damage. Depends per champ. Playstyle... keep wards up in crucial places, and get experience by playing a lot, to know match-ups. It'll help you learning whether or not you can go for a fight. Later on, keep warding/clearing wards, and try to protect your carry! I see so many people leaving the carry on their own to die to some [[Dr. Mundo]]... [/Quote] Yeah.. Something i engage when i shouldn't. It's one of my problems, there are times that i don't know if i should or not fight. That's my job boy, protect my carry xD [quote=Satella] You can't really start it (or you will get rekt in an all-in), and buying it first back is really bad because you won't get to harass enough afterward to make it worth getting over [[Talisman of Ascension]]. It's really annoying that you're pretty much forced to buy the talisman if no one else on your team is getting it, because if your team doesn't have the active and the enemy does, engaging and disengaging become way harder. [/quote] I always start with doran's shield, it's make me and my carry to win 90% of the trades. You sir make a really good point when you talk about to get forced to buy talisman because of the engages and desingages. [quote=tehAsian] [[Sightstone]] is no longer mandatory with the new gold flow; you'll have more than enough money for wards each back. The other side's jungle exit/dragon isn't a must-Ward, especally not in solo queue. Always Ward both River bush and Tri, regardless of if you're purple or blue. If you can, dedicate pinks to Tri. [/quote] Yeah i still forget to buy some pink to ward tri-bush, need to play some games to remember myself to ward tri-bush, drake and baron with a pink. [quote=XeresAce] Eh people up to gold III seem to be stupid enough to get poked down so you can start spellthief if you feel confident :P I always get the opposite effect: If I start spellthief people are afraid of trading but if I start shield people are like OOOO BETTER ENGAGE WHILE I STARTED WITH COIN, I'LL DEFFO WIN THAT TRADE I assume things aren't much better at silver V so go ahead and buy what you feel like buying =D Also, only get sightstone on champs that benefit from the tankyness I completely forgo it on zyra, annie and karma. [/quote] It's rare but some supports start with doran's shield. I just use [[spellthief's edge]] on [[Lulu]], i use [[ancient coin]] always on any other support but i start with [[doran's shield]].[/quote]