Cinderhulk Nocturne > Devourer Nocturne

[quote=Lord Lund]I have tested it out and have come to my conclusion that Cinderhulk Nocturne is the way to go, even with the new addition of Sated Devourer in patch 5.13. I go [[Skirmisher's Sabre - Cinderhulk]], [[Blade of the Ruined King]], and either [[Mercury's Treads]] or [[Ninja Tabi]] for boots. Then, depending on their team comp it can vary, but I usually go [[Thornmail]], [[Spirit Visage]], and [[Righteous Glory]]. Please test it out for yourselves and let me know what you think! I am convinced that this is the best build path to go on Nocturne, yet I am seeing almost every other Nocturne using [[Enchantment: Devourer]]. I'm curious to hear feedback on what you guys think is the best jungle item to build on Nocturne.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]Removed the advertisement from your post. Advertising your guide is unnecessary here and against forum rules. I actually see most Nocturnes with [[Enchantment: Warrior]], though with the new Sated Devourer that might not be the case anymore. I'm convinced that any of the three are viable but you have to consider which one is best for what you want to bring to the team. Warrior gives the best early pressure, Devourer has the best DPS and Cinderhulk gives the most reliable stats for transitioning into a tank build in team fights. I will say that I'm not a fan of Cinderhulk straight into BotRK. Cinder really sucks if you don't make good use of the bonus HP passive and BotRK is a huge pit-stop before picking up more HP. If you want to go BotRK, use one of the other enchantments. If you want to go cinder, pick up an HP item right afterwards.[/quote]

[quote=Lord Lund][quote=PsiGuard]Removed the advertisement from your post. Advertising your guide is unnecessary here and against forum rules. I actually see most Nocturnes with [[Enchantment: Warrior]], though with the new Sated Devourer that might not be the case anymore. I'm convinced that any of the three are viable but you have to consider which one is best for what you want to bring to the team. Warrior gives the best early pressure, Devourer has the best DPS and Cinderhulk gives the most reliable stats for transitioning into a tank build in team fights. I will say that I'm not a fan of Cinderhulk straight into BotRK. Cinder really sucks if you don't make good use of the bonus HP passive and BotRK is a huge pit-stop before picking up more HP. If you want to go BotRK, use one of the other enchantments. If you want to go cinder, pick up an HP item right afterwards.[/quote] PsiGuard, Sorry wasn't purposely trying to advertise :/ Thanks for pointing it out, I don't want to sound like that's what I was trying to do. What I really want from this thread is to hear everyone's viewpoints on which enchantment to go on [[Nocturne]]. Have you tried going Cinder into BotRK on Noct? It has been my go to Nocturne build since I've started doing it about a little over a month ago, and I must say it has been working wonders for me. In fact, I've tried replacing Cinder with the new Sated Devourer and it felt a lot weaker to me. In fact I ended up selling it when I was 6 items and buying [[Skirmisher's Sabre - Cinderhulk]] instead. Would you change your mind on the build path if I told you that I usually go [[Skirmisher's Sabre - Cinderhulk]], [[Boots of Speed]], [[Bilgewater Cutlass]], and then either [[Catalyst the Protector]] or [[Giant's Belt]]? That way you can get the 25 AD and 8 Life Steal from Bilge but also start stacking some HP early on. Lord Lund[/quote]

[quote=Re4XN][[Catalyst the Protector]]? What's that going to be? A [[Righteous Glory]]? I've got to admit, I have never seen such a thing. What I see built 90% of the time on [[Nocturne]] is [[enchantment: warrior]] (I am not even going to mention it's rework on the PBE) and, the other 10% they build [[enchantment: devourer]]. [[Enchantment: cinderhulk]] isn't really going to work unless you build other tank items, and if you do, you'll be sacrificing a good chunk of [[nocturne]]'s dueling power, but if Tank Nocturne is what you're aiming at, then maybe it can work. EDIT: Apparently, [[enchantment: warrior]] changes were reverted. They were so good T_T[/quote]

[quote=Lord Lund][quote=Re4XN][[Catalyst the Protector]]? What's that going to be? A [[Righteous Glory]]? I've got to admit, I have never seen such a thing. What I see built 90% of the time on [[Nocturne]] is [[enchantment: warrior]] (I am not even going to mention it's rework on the PBE) and, the other 10% they build [[enchantment: devourer]]. [[Enchantment: cinderhulk]] isn't really going to work unless you build other tank items, and if you do, you'll be sacrificing a good chunk of [[nocturne]]'s dueling power, but if Tank Nocturne is what you're aiming at, then maybe it can work. EDIT: Apparently, [[enchantment: warrior]] changes were reverted. They were so good T_T[/quote] Re4XN, Yes, the [[Catalyst the Protector]] would result in a [[Righteous Glory]]. Although, recently I have been building [[Warmog's Armor]] instead because of the nerfs this past patch to [[Righteous Glory]]. After accounting for the 25% bonus HP from [[Enchantment: Cinderhulk]], I'd rather get 1000 HP from Warmog's than 625 HP from Righteous. The tank noct I've been building with only BotRK as a damage item has been working for me, in fact I feel as though it actually really brings out the true dueling power of [[Nocturne]]. One huge downfall to [[Nocturne]] is that he is generally quite squishy if you build him with damage items. Yet, if you build him tank, he has a ton of sustain while also still being able to deal a lot of damage with only one damage item due to his high base damage. I know that it may sound like a kind of unconventional thing to build [[Enchantment: Cinderhulk]] on [[Nocturne]], but I'll assure you his team fight presence is HUGE. A lot of pros have been building [[Nocturne]] with Cinder as well. Pro Build Examples: http://www.probuilds.net/champions/Nocturne Lord Lund[/quote]