Heelp Shaco!

[quote=Max Carter]Hi guys, I'll play LoL again because I can't find a game to replace it... it's just too good... Before I stop playing I was using tankers, trying to use off tankers ([[nasus]]/[[renekton]] and going for casters ([[malzahar]])... I tried too [[master yi]] but failed, I don't understand him, how to use him effectively... Well, I'm going back and I had a big curiosity about [[Shaco]] since a lot ago... He seems to be very fun, and strong (I really don't know how, looking his spells on the database my reactions are "wtf, where is the damage?")... But I think he's hard to master... So I'll ask for your help - You already made me improve with 4 champions, why can't you help with more 1? xD I searched some guides... but [[Shaco]] doesn't really have famous and updated guides... 1- Shaco should jungle or lane bot? - I think jungle but I will not die if I ask 2- AP x AD x Hybrid x Tanky = I saw some guides and I thought this: AP: Good ratio on every spell, but the active clone, passive and deceive would be less effective AD: Good passive, deceive, box for fear, good combination of slow + hits (don't remember the name of the slow xD two shiv something?), and great clone... lack survability? Hybrid: AS + AD or AS + AP or Tri Force... can someone tell me about? Tanky: Some AD/AS itens and some survability itens... seems great, maybe the best option for newbs (coming back) and noobs (I'm noob with squishy) 3- What you guys think it's the best for him of the builds above? AP, pure AD, Tanky, Hybrid AD+AP, Hybrid Tri-Force, Hybrid AD+AS+lifesteal? 4- Masteries would be 21/0/9? 5- He haves mana issues? 6- ArmP marks (I have ArmP, MagicP, % crit chance), Mana regen/level Seals (have flat armor, health per level and mana regen per level), idk glyphs (only magic resist per level, LOL), idk marks (flat HP, ArmP, flat AS)? - I have all of them "full" (group of 9 or 3...) 7- Summoners spells? Exhaust/Ignite and Flash/Exhaust? :D[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]This champion sucks so bad.[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter][quote=DuffTime] This champion sucks so bad. [/quote] sooooo please make a better comment like... this champion suck... because he's... try this champion... Thx...[/quote]

[quote=ZioSerpe]shaco is too squishy of a laner, he needs way less skill that it might seem, he jungles fast as hell and can lvl 2 gank with mid possibly still lvl 1. Saintvicious guide is your friend[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter]he doesn't have a guide for shaco...[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]Shaco's kinda bad in general. His teamfight is terrible. His jungle is the hardest thing in the world. He's only there to pick off stragglers really. If you can get into a 1v1 situation with a squishy, you will kill them unless someone comes to help. Honestly, I would just play anyone else in general.[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter]ok... so, who? some advise of cool and good champ? and not the harder...[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]If you want an assassin, try Akali, Kassadin or Talon instead. If you want a jungler assassin, try Lee Sin (technically he's not an assassin) or Nocturne. Bot lane should be occupied by a ranged DPS and support.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]I've seen good shaco's. To be a good shaco you need to know when to counterjungle, where to counterjungle, when to gank, where to gank. Memorize the times well. Counterjungle and Gank like mad. = good shaco.[/quote]

[quote=FlavoRTowN][quote=RosePhoenix] I've seen good shaco's. To be a good shaco you need to know when to counterjungle, where to counterjungle, when to gank, where to gank. Memorize the times well. Counterjungle and Gank like mad. = good shaco. [/quote] have to agree, his counter jungle is amazing in the right hands and ganks can start from level 2. However he is extremely hard to master, but can be a useful asset if played extremely well.[/quote]