Heelp Shaco!

[quote=JunSupport][quote=Max Carter] I had the same impression as duff of shaco, at least looking his abilities in database... but in game he's strong... but rarely, very often the shaco's feed :/ ---- PLEASE READ THIS ---- I want a champion for it: 1- I play Solo queue, not ranked - draft mode 2- I don't like ranged AD carriers 3- I play solo, so, sometimes my team is noob, sometimes the enemy is noob, sometimes my team is great, and sometimes my enemies are great. So, I need a champion to use on this situations, a champ who can change the game, if we are loosing, carry or lead, or even BD like a bitch and do something good! A champion that can full the roles, if we are loosing and need a carrier, carry it, if we are loosing and need a second tanker, or a main tanker... A good champion, because everyone knows = the champions aren't balanced, some are stronger than others. A champion who makes impact on the game, not a fucking shit that can't do enough damage neither receive it. 4- I would love to know how to use [[Master Yi]] but she's weak, dies easily... but I like, he's fun, I could BD so crazy, or I could alpha the carrier and hit 3 or 4 high crits on his face... :/ It's me or the life for melee AD is very hard? (trynda, sion, xin, etc) 5- Wich champs should I ban if I'm the capitan? Rammus, fid, amumu, trynda, vayne? those champs? 6- in the casters area I like malza [: but I'm open to new ones... [/quote] So sorry for ignoring you - Let's see here... 1- Don't really see the distinction since normal queue has hidden ELO, but kay. 2- Understandable, positioning is so key on ranged carries; not a lot of people (including me) know where-and-when to click. 3- If you want a champion to change the game, you'll probably want a tank who can defend his/her allies well and constantly pressure the team - If it's melee AD, I recommend Irelia. When it comes down to winning games, it's not so much the champion as the player - Just practice lots. Play games to the very end, even it seems obvious that you'll lose - Refine your skills until you can easily second-guess what enemies are going do and what you need to do to win. Then you can "change" games as you please. 4- Melee-carries (if not tanky) are very difficult, yes. Squishy Melee carries have to enter fights late in order to avoid getting focused down. 5- Who you ban depends on the meta; going on the forums to see who everyone's having trouble with is a good start to figuring it out, but to really know which are good bans requires you actually understand the meta: There's no real way to teach this. 6- Casters are typically really easy to play. Start with Annie, she's top-tier material. Save up and buy others as you become more comfortable.[/quote]

[quote=React]lucky for you Im an amazing [wiki=master yi], the best according to some of my friends. As for [wiki=shaco] Im rusty with him but I still know my old tricks. You gotta think properly for [wiki=shaco]... just pm me and ill help you out a bit.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]tl;dr: Shaco is viable in Solo queue for pubstomping but not in competitive play.[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter]What's the gameplay on shaco? Don't fight and try to get your enemies into a trap? - I don't like it :/ I prefer fighting... get in there and focus someone to melt it... '-' and please, can someone tell about: [[riven]], [[irelia]], [[renekton]], [[lee sin]], [[master yi]] or [[gangplank]] or [[tryndamere]] or [[nocturne]] - melee auto attackers carriers...[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]React, sig 2 gud.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=RosePhoenix] tl;dr: Shaco is viable in Solo queue for pubstomping but not in competitive play. [/quote] Yeah. And he's not even very good at pubstomping. He can do it though, if your opponents are dumb as bricks :P[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Max Carter] What's the gameplay on shaco? Don't fight and try to get your enemies into a trap? - I don't like it :/ I prefer fighting... get in there and focus someone to melt it... '-' and please, can someone tell about: [[riven]], [[irelia]], [[renekton]], [[lee sin]], [[master yi]] or [[gangplank]] or [[tryndamere]] or [[nocturne]] - melee auto attackers carriers... [/quote] You've got the right idea, that's Shaco in a nutshell. You listed a ton of champions lol. Riven; too new to really say for sure. Irelia; nerfed so many time, she can still be used in lane but she's not scary like before. I wouldn't pick her personally. Renekton; Real good. He's a champ worth playing right now. He's a lane stomper, and he can eat squishies pretty fast. Lee Sin; Flavor of the Month jungler, everyone thinks he's OP right now. Master Yi; Good Tanky DPS jungler pick against squishy teams with slows but not many hard CC's. Example; Pick Yi to counter Karthus, Karma, Kogmaw (Lotta K champs, o_O) Miss Fortune, etc. GP; Good jungler, also pretty flavor. People think he's OP but I'm not convinced since his nerfs. I'd say he's very very strong, a good competitive pick. Tryndamere; Since rework he solo's top pretty well. Decent jungler. I'd say he's not a competitive pick for every game, because those lanes are more important for other champions right now. He could be a decent counter pick though? Nocturne; A very good jungler, with very good ganks. Late game he turns into an anti carry.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]You could write [[riven]]=[[lee sin]] at jungling.[/quote]

[quote=Max Carter]I like renekton [: - 0/21/9 and ArmP marks? Wich are his itens? tanky + youmuu and black cleaver? would like to try lee sin too, how could i build him? and runes/masteries? and would like to play well master yi, but IDK how to build him, if I focus 100% in damage, 100% in lfiesteal or 50% damage 50% survability...[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]If you're good at farming...? Trinity Warmogg's Atma's FoN Infinity edge for Yi.[/quote]