Jarvan Talk

[quote=Uproar]So i've taken up Jarvan as my Main Champion in the Jungle. Also as top lane, yet to try as a support, but more on that another time. I wanted to talk to other Jarvan players who would suggest the best package for a Jungle Jarvan. I'm going 9 W - 4 L. (Where 2 of those loses were down to either a 3 v 5 or a 4 v 5. Just could not pull it around. ) I play Jarvan quite tanky, and depending on my support depends whether or not i take a Locket. General final build; [[mercury's treads]] [[Spirit Of the Ancient Golem]] or [[Spirit of the elder lizard]] Depending on the top lane & support. [[Randuin's Omen]] [[Trinity Force]] [[Black Cleaver]] [[Spirit Visage]] or [[Sunfire Cape]] Overall, gives me enough tankiness from the get go to do early ganks. By level 6 i can lead in to a multitude of ganks from top to bottom consecutively without stopping. Obviously problems have arisen, I've noticed as jarvan, once you initiate, you're locked in till the end. with the Cooldowns and no flash up you are vulnerable where as other junglers have viable escapes no matter the situation. Also with that, successful ganks are not always with a kill, sometimes even after making mid land burn a flash and then hitting R, they may have other escapes. Trying to time everything right. Anyone else jungle jarvan with another preferably build or perhaps tips tricks?[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][[Trinity Force]] is pretty expensive for an initiator. Might be better to get [[spirit of the elder lizard]] and [[the brutalizer]], then just build tank with [[the black cleaver]] later on. Also [[Banshee's Veil]] > [[Spirit Visage]] imo. Jarvan doesn't get much out of the healing increase and it's only 10% cdr.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Don't forget that mercs + ancient golem don't stack tenacity. Besides that, agreed with Psi that Trinity Force shouldn't really be considered as a jungler, other situationals could be something like hexdrinker though.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD]I play a ton of J4, any role except adc. Here is an image of best cheat sheet world: [url=http://i.imgur.com/oPqcLi7.png][img=http://i.imgur.com/oPqcLi7.png width=500][/url] I'm working on a guide but pretty lazy. It's part of my project which includes [url=http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/31813965#ranked-stats]a J4 only smurf[/url]. Skill order is Q > W > E.[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Holy fuck that cheat sheet looks super messy, even though it isn't at all.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] Holy fuck that cheat sheet looks super messy, even though it isn't at all. [/quote] It just contains builds for three roles xD. Solo, Jungle and Support.[/quote]

[quote=rekh]I feel like Hydra is a really strong offensive item to get after your Golem item if you're doing well - good damage, even more sustain in the jungle, and good synergy with ult. I'd definitely get it over Trinity Force (not sure about getting it over Brutalizer tho).[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=rekh] I feel like Hydra is a really strong offensive item to get after your Golem item if you're doing well - good damage, even more sustain in the jungle, and good synergy with ult. I'd definitely get it over Trinity Force (not sure about getting it over Brutalizer tho). [/quote] Hydra is solid, especially when combined with Cleaver.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I must say, that's a very interesting way of organizing your itemization for J4 based on his role. Looks messy, but in reality it isn't. [img=http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/47094017.jpg] ------ To the OP: Not quite related to your question, but it's important to say that J4 is especially strong with champions with strong AoE ults. Some examples are [[fiddlesticks]], [[nunu]] (if he's ever played anymore), and [[ziggs]][/quote]

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