New Items: Essence Reaver and Ardent Censer

[quote=Aeadar]Has anyone else thought that [[warwick]] top may become more popular with the [[essence reaver]]? And maybe [[Udyr]]/[[yorick]] ?[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Nah, [[Warwick]] and [[Udyr]] are better off in the jungle where they would never build an item like that due to blue buff at their disposal. [[Yorick]] seldom has to auto attack you in or out of lane, so [[muramana]] is likely a better fit for him still.[/quote]

[quote=Aeadar]I think the item just provides a way to increase the viability of some champs who can't effectively jungle, yet have major mana issues which is why they aren't really played at all in the top lane. And on ADC's maybe its a crutch to the inexperienced players who don't have proper mana management, because like many others said, its stats are pretty bad to keep to the late game. And for junglers who purchase the [[feral flare]], and give their blues to the mid lane, junglers such [[udyr]]/ [[warwick]] are pretty mana hungry, even if they are not played top, so maybe it could be built in the jungle along with [[feral flare]] XD.[/quote]

[quote=Aeadar]On the [[ardent censer]]. This item just increases the viability of some supports.([[alistar]]'s [[triumphant roar]], [[janna]]'s [[eye of the storm]], AND [[monsoon]]) On supports who have heals/shields that you don't want to spam([[karma]], [[thresh]]) its not so useful.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Aeadar] On the [[ardent censer]]. This item just increases the viability of some supports.([[alistar]]'s [[triumphant roar]], [[janna]]'s [[eye of the storm]], AND [[monsoon]]) On supports who have heals/shields that you don't want to spam([[karma]], [[thresh]]) its not so useful. [/quote] Or, ya know, it's meant to be useful on supports that give bonuses to auto-attacks. Maybe, just maybe.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]yea, [[Ardent Censer]] [[Nami]] could definitely be a thing. [[ebb and flow]] for AS boost, [[tidecaller's blessing]] right away and proc it super fast.[/quote]

[quote=Wicked Eye]Let me see if I got this item right. Lets say I'm using it with [[karma]]. [[inspire]] + [[mantra]] everyone, if you have [[locket of the iron solari]] you can use that too so it'll be 12 seconds with 25% AS, and you'll have your shield again so almost 18 seconds with 25% AS for your ADC. If I have [[mikael's crucible]] as well, another 6 seconds e_e. Maybe Riot's point was to bring back those not so aggressive supports that people weren't playing that much, instead of supports like [[braum]] and [[leona]].[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=Wicked Eye] Let me see if I got this item right. Lets say I'm using it with [[karma]]. [[inspire]] + [[mantra]] everyone, if you have [[locket of the iron solari]] you can use that too so it'll be 12 seconds with 25% AS, and you'll have your shield again so almost 18 seconds with 25% AS for your ADC. If I have [[mikael's crucible]] as well, another 6 seconds e_e. Maybe Riot's point was to bring back those not so aggressive supports that people weren't playing that much, instead of supports like [[braum]] and [[leona]]. [/quote] Yea, but you're not gonna want to waste the crucible just for an AS boost. And Karma shielding an entire team doesn't really help much unless the team is something like [[Vayne]], [[Irelia]], and maybe a jungle [[warwick]]. It shines most on supports that have shields that benefit from auto attacking like [[eye of the storm]] or [[Help, Pix!]]. Or, the AD carry is really AS reliant like [[Twitch]], [[Varus]] or [[Vayne]][/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm][[Varus]] isn't AS reliant.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf][quote=OTGBionicArm] [[Varus]] isn't AS reliant. [/quote] Iunno about you, but those stacks are pretty important.[/quote]