Need help on AP-ish supports

[quote=IceCreamy]Don't you like play Nid support maxing heal? If you take Tear I know people who murder you :P[/quote]

[quote=Kinen]Nidalee support makes me mad. My support picks her when I ADC and I'm just, "Get out!". Although I'm anti-nidalee anywhere :/ Zyra's ace, though! You can talk to me on EUW about Zyra if you want, although it's not like I'm actually any [i]good[/i]. Except at stealing kills. It's the plants, not me, I swear.[/quote]

[quote=Test0ML][quote=Kinen] Nidalee support makes me mad. My support picks her when I ADC and I'm just, "Get out!". Although I'm anti-nidalee anywhere :/ Zyra's ace, though! You can talk to me on EUW about Zyra if you want, although it's not like I'm actually any [i]good[/i]. Except at stealing kills. It's the plants, not me, I swear. [/quote] I think [wiki=teemo] support is much better than [wiki=nidalee] support.[/quote]

[quote=Pheyniex]seriously, if you are supporting with [[Nidalee]] you're wasting your time getting a tear, imo. Chalice would be much better. However, getting AP beats any of those. I haven't done it in quite a while, but after [[sightstone]], i'd look for a [[Kage's Lucky Pick]], for starters. Either way, Moon knows better. edit: saying she has inbuilt wards doesn't seem right from a diamond player.[/quote]

[quote=xIchi]I guess if you are looking for poke [[Lux]] might be a better option. If you are going for DotA / Korean style supports aka. Burst supports, as mentioned [[LeBlanc]] is a good option. I enjoy playing her on bot alot!. Then there is [[Syndra]], but I'd always choose [[LeBlanc]] over her. Remember these are burst supports similar to [[Zyra]] so all you want is to kill harder than a kill lane with [[Leona]].[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy][quote=Pheyniex] edit: saying she has inbuilt wards doesn't seem right from a diamond player. [/quote] *Contains over reaction* What's so wrong about saying that lol? Sure it doesn't give constant vision in a big area but if someone steps on it it reveals him for 12 mfing seconds lol. Well placed traps will give you control of a bush easily + negate most enemy ganks. Also [[tear of the goddess]] is way superior to [[chalice of harmony]] on [[nidalee]]. It's way more cost efficient, it's cheaper, gives more mana and no unnecessary MR. You can abuse it for near infinite mana with Cougar form (you can charge it up quickly and for free)[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]lol teemo is a shitty champ please don't say "he's good in this lane! he coutners this champ! Put him here" also don't go arguing about "___'s only good with ___ he's bad with __" That's retarded anyone who plays at an adequate level knows that support-adc synergy isn't hardly as important as the support's kit's impact throughout the game. As for nida support you can just go fairie charm and build tear --> sighstone when ahead or sightstone when behind If you're looking to tryhard for supports just play Thresh Nami Sona Zyra. They work with any ADC. Nida support is just niche and for fun. I'd max Q on her cuz you're already playing a niche support might as well use it to its full potential. It's like playing Xin Zhao bot and going 1/13/16 "cuz he's a support"[/quote]

[quote=Test0ML][quote=Embracing] lol teemo is a shitty champ please don't say "he's good in this lane! he coutners this champ! Put him here" also don't go arguing about "___'s only good with ___ he's bad with __" That's retarded anyone who plays at an adequate level knows that support-adc synergy isn't hardly as important as the support's kit's impact throughout the game. As for nida support you can just go fairie charm and build tear --> sighstone when ahead or sightstone when behind If you're looking to tryhard for supports just play Thresh Nami Sona Zyra. They work with any ADC. Nida support is just niche and for fun. I'd max Q on her cuz you're already playing a niche support might as well use it to its full potential. It's like playing Xin Zhao bot and going 1/13/16 "cuz he's a support" [/quote] Is just my opinion...[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]wasnt really respondin to you but sry if ive offended you[/quote]

[quote=YeaISupport]I do main [[Zyra]] support, so if you want to PM me for tips, I am willing to answer those questions. For [[Zyra]] support, you are weakest at Level 1 because you only have [[Grasping Roots]]. [[Rampant Growth]] improves your burst by a lot. [[Zyra]], however, gets power spikes at Level 2 and 6. You have a bit of leeways at warding due to your [[Rampant Growth]], but remember, if you use seed as a ward, its vision is very limited, and you are losing a chunk of your burst damage without seeds (Seed CD is pretty high at low levels btw.) Also, it is sometimes useful to use an ability over your seed to guarantee more vision. However, you are probably higher-ranked than me, so you may be better than me (even with my 200+ ranked games with [[Zyra]]... :))[/quote]