AP Warwick

[quote=NicknameMy]So, now the on-hit changes are here and I know one champ who will really like them: AP Warwick. AP Warwick got back in some time even some competetive playtime until they nerfed the healing value of [[hungering strike]]. But he still has insane selfheal in the lane as long as he has mana (and that could be fixed with [[crystalline flask]]) and now, later in the game, he will deal way more damage thanks to [[wit's end]] and [[nashor's tooth]]. The only hard thing here will be to find the right balance between the offense and defense, any thoughts? I would say, [[rod of ages]] is a must, but what after that? My actual build structure: 1. Rod of Ages 2. Boots(Merc's or Sorc) 3. ? (something focused on armor) 4. Wit's End 5. ? (something focused on AP) 6. Nashor's Tooth[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]I've played Warwick with [[Muramana]] and [[the black cleaver]] recently and loved it. But that's not AP. I don't know if I'd build Nashor's on WW. I was thinking a build looking like this for maximum on-hitness: [icon=mercury's treads] [icon=muramana] [icon=wit's end] [icon=blade of the ruined king] [icon=frozen mallet] [icon=frozen heart] Frozen is for the mana to support Muramana. This is obviously a glass cannon build and would not be viable in the jungle. Would be a top lane build. What were you thinking for a straight AP on-hit WW?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Something similar to AP Bruiser'gath which gets items with some AP and AS to get into the enemy face and throw [[vorpal spikes]] on them. My build for him is actually: [[rod of ages]] [[mercury's treads]] [[thornmail]] [[spirit visage]] [[wit's end]] [[nashor's tooth]] Problem is, I don't think [[warwick]] has enough HP to do this and that isn't actually enough AP. Also [[warwick]] has generally a lower base damage. But I might be wrong.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]That Thornmail is confusing. And pretty much worthless. Especially on Cho'Gath who would be better of with Frozen Heart. What's your reasoning for grabbing Thornmail?[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I wanted to make the build cost a very low amount of gold. That is just 13k-14k, which especially helps with the shorter games nowadays. Also I got 40% CDR with [[Spirit Visage]] and [[nashor's tooth]] and good amounts of mana with [[rod of ages]]. I also run into the middle of the fight trying to AA things to death, so the enemy carry actually has to focus me. At this point, [[thornmail]] is better. Finally, Cho's HP pool is already so high, that I would say it is better than [[randuin's omen]].[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark][quote=NicknameMy] Something similar to AP Bruiser'gath which gets items with some AP and AS to get into the enemy face and throw [[vorpal spikes]] on them. My build for him is actually: [[rod of ages]] [[mercury's treads]] [[thornmail]] [[spirit visage]] [[wit's end]] [[nashor's tooth]] Problem is, I don't think [[warwick]] has enough HP to do this and that isn't actually enough AP. Also [[warwick]] has generally a lower base damage. But I might be wrong. [/quote] That build has less tankiness, less sustain and less damage than AD WW.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]That also isn't my WW build, that is my Cho build. AP WW needs, as I said, a different build. I would only like a comparable build in which you AA the enemy to death, utilising AP, Wit's and Nashor's.[/quote]

[quote=Embracing]go mpen (haunting guise) and tankiness +cdr (sunfire, spirit visage) going ap is just pointless dont see a reason why you would[/quote]

[quote=DarkPercy]If you go AP Warwick you have to go full Yolo AP Warwick. No fagget hiding behind your tankiness and base damages. [[seraph's embrace]] [[rabadon's deathcap]] [[sorcerer's shoes]] [[nashor's tooth]] You go Ham or you go home ;D[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]His Q has a 100% AP ratio (and 80% of that is healed) and Nashor's has a 15% AP ratio, which procs on his ultimate. If you strike a huge HP guy with your Q, your heal is just insane. BTW Dark: Wouldn't you get [[spirit of the spectral wraith]] for the even higher heal? And which tools does Warwick have to get up tear quickly? He has 3 abilities with long cooldowns.[/quote]