The good :
-
Electrocute on junglers destroyed. That stuff was broken early game so totally deserved. Losing 60% of your HP from a level 3 Lee Sin or similar, gone. Now every burst jungler has to go Dark Harvest basically.
- Nunu rework (not until next patch sadly)
- Trynd revert. One of the stupidest meme builds to walk the rift gone forever.
- Sion jungle incoming? I mean, he gets 15 permanent HP per camp...
The bad :
- They claim to buff Hecarim but actually nerfed him by destroying Celerity. Also they think making him into a tank that deals AOE damage will make him viable. Lol. They want him to be Amumu 2.0. The only thing good about him was his burst damage and they even gutted that with the runes. Also the monster hunter thing forces him to go cinderhulk instead of non-upgraded talisman, which forces him into this tank playstyle instead of a fun thing like rushing youmuus. They literally took a bad jungler and made him worse.
- They claim to buff Nautilus but actually nerfed him by destroying both his shield strength and his shield uptime.
- "Tank buffs" is false advertising, it's literally just a Sion buff and a Leona buff (who's not even a toplaner), the rest is completely negligible. No toplane Shen buff?
- Cheap Shot nerfed for no reason. Nobody even runs that thing. Lissandra and Ashe too broken visibly? Lul.
- Quinn nerfed wrong IMO. No idea why they reduced her scaling, the problem with Quinn was her being unkillable in the laning stage. Why not remove her permanent movement speed buffs?
- Sona nerfed...really? I mean, they literally destroyed Summon Aery and Scorch...
-
Electrocute on junglers destroyed. That stuff was broken early game so totally deserved. Losing 60% of your HP from a level 3 Lee Sin or similar, gone. Now every burst jungler has to go Dark Harvest basically.- Nunu rework (not until next patch sadly)
- Trynd revert. One of the stupidest meme builds to walk the rift gone forever.
-
Sion jungle incoming? I mean, he gets 15 permanent HP per camp...The bad :
- They claim to buff
Hecarim but actually nerfed him by destroying Celerity. Also they think making him into a tank that deals AOE damage will make him viable. Lol. They want him to be Amumu 2.0. The only thing good about him was his burst damage and they even gutted that with the runes. Also the monster hunter thing forces him to go cinderhulk instead of non-upgraded talisman, which forces him into this tank playstyle instead of a fun thing like rushing youmuus. They literally took a bad jungler and made him worse.- They claim to buff
Nautilus but actually nerfed him by destroying both his shield strength and his shield uptime.- "Tank buffs" is false advertising, it's literally just a
Sion buff and a Leona buff (who's not even a toplaner), the rest is completely negligible. No toplane Shen buff?-
Cheap Shot nerfed for no reason. Nobody even runs that thing. Lissandra and Ashe too broken visibly? Lul.-
Quinn nerfed wrong IMO. No idea why they reduced her scaling, the problem with Quinn was her being unkillable in the laning stage. Why not remove her permanent movement speed buffs?-
Sona nerfed...really? I mean, they literally destroyed Summon Aery and Scorch...
I have to concur with LS on this patch, seems like there are way too many unnecessary changes and some of the nerfs only target the lowest end of the spectrum in terms of rank (ie Tryndamere nerf).
Tryndamere nerf).
Hamstertamer wrote:
The good :
The bad :
- They claim to buff Hecarim but actually nerfed him by destroying Celerity. Also they think making him into a tank that deals AOE damage will make him viable. Lol. They want him to be Amumu 2.0. The only thing good about him was his burst damage and they even gutted that with the runes. Also the monster hunter thing forces him to go cinderhulk instead of non-upgraded talisman, which forces him into this tank playstyle instead of a fun thing like rushing youmuus. They literally took a bad jungler and made him worse.
The bad :
- They claim to buff
Hecarim but actually nerfed him by destroying Celerity. Also they think making him into a tank that deals AOE damage will make him viable. Lol. They want him to be Amumu 2.0. The only thing good about him was his burst damage and they even gutted that with the runes. Also the monster hunter thing forces him to go cinderhulk instead of non-upgraded talisman, which forces him into this tank playstyle instead of a fun thing like rushing youmuus. They literally took a bad jungler and made him worse.Agreed that
Hecarim gets wrecked over the changes to Celerity and potentially Electrocute. It probably shoe horns him into running Predator or maybe even switching to either Phase Rush or Aftershock since they also nerfed Sudden Impact.His problem wasn't his damage, though it definitely is now over the changes to the runes that were viable on him even with the buff to Q (it isn't compensation enough).
He has several problems in the jungle:
1) he is slow at taking the single target camps pre
Sheen2) his manna costs are quite high
3) he has to go E,
Devastating Charge, 2nd to lower the armor and MR of the Rift Scuttler*4) He doesn't really want to go E 2nd because he primary clear path, Blue > Raptors > Red, requires that he go
Spirit of Dread 2nd.5) his early clear path is predictable
*this puts it on cool down which makes it harder to get away if you get collapsed on and you have to wait around for it to come off cool down in order to gank effectively.
As he set pre-nerfs if you could pick up an early kill and get say a
Sheen you could considerably improve your clear speed on single target camps and then work from there to snowball the rest of the game.Or be pretty useless if you didn't get that early kill. With the dmg rune nerfs, good luck getting that early kill.
Hamstertamer wrote:
The good :
- Electrocute on junglers destroyed. That stuff was broken early game so totally deserved. Losing 60% of your HP from a level 3 Lee Sin or similar, gone. Now every burst jungler has to go Dark Harvest basically.
- Nunu rework (not until next patch sadly)
- Trynd revert. One of the stupidest meme builds to walk the rift gone forever.
- Sion jungle incoming? I mean, he gets 15 permanent HP per camp...
The bad :
- They claim to buff Hecarim but actually nerfed him by destroying Celerity. Also they think making him into a tank that deals AOE damage will make him viable. Lol. They want him to be Amumu 2.0. The only thing good about him was his burst damage and they even gutted that with the runes. Also the monster hunter thing forces him to go cinderhulk instead of non-upgraded talisman, which forces him into this tank playstyle instead of a fun thing like rushing youmuus. They literally took a bad jungler and made him worse.
- They claim to buff Nautilus but actually nerfed him by destroying both his shield strength and his shield uptime.
- "Tank buffs" is false advertising, it's literally just a Sion buff and a Leona buff (who's not even a toplaner), the rest is completely negligible. No toplane Shen buff?
- Cheap Shot nerfed for no reason. Nobody even runs that thing. Lissandra and Ashe too broken visibly? Lul.
- Quinn nerfed wrong IMO. No idea why they reduced her scaling, the problem with Quinn was her being unkillable in the laning stage. Why not remove her permanent movement speed buffs?
- Sona nerfed...really? I mean, they literally destroyed Summon Aery and Scorch...
-
Electrocute on junglers destroyed. That stuff was broken early game so totally deserved. Losing 60% of your HP from a level 3 Lee Sin or similar, gone. Now every burst jungler has to go Dark Harvest basically.- Nunu rework (not until next patch sadly)
- Trynd revert. One of the stupidest meme builds to walk the rift gone forever.
-
Sion jungle incoming? I mean, he gets 15 permanent HP per camp...The bad :
- They claim to buff
Hecarim but actually nerfed him by destroying Celerity. Also they think making him into a tank that deals AOE damage will make him viable. Lol. They want him to be Amumu 2.0. The only thing good about him was his burst damage and they even gutted that with the runes. Also the monster hunter thing forces him to go cinderhulk instead of non-upgraded talisman, which forces him into this tank playstyle instead of a fun thing like rushing youmuus. They literally took a bad jungler and made him worse.- They claim to buff
Nautilus but actually nerfed him by destroying both his shield strength and his shield uptime.- "Tank buffs" is false advertising, it's literally just a
Sion buff and a Leona buff (who's not even a toplaner), the rest is completely negligible. No toplane Shen buff?-
Cheap Shot nerfed for no reason. Nobody even runs that thing. Lissandra and Ashe too broken visibly? Lul.-
Quinn nerfed wrong IMO. No idea why they reduced her scaling, the problem with Quinn was her being unkillable in the laning stage. Why not remove her permanent movement speed buffs?-
Sona nerfed...really? I mean, they literally destroyed Summon Aery and Scorch...You forgot amumu :(
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Hello and welcome to the MOBAFire Patch Summary - 8.16!
This is the patch of nerfs. Riot's goal is to tone down some of the burst damage in the game, largely through targeted nerfs at some prolific damage runes. There are also a ton of champion nerfs that mostly lower their damage numbers and a few buffs for some underused tanks. Surprisingly, there are no item changes this patch!
The Nexus Blitz alpha test will be kicking off during patch 8.16 and will run for 4 weeks. Check out more details on the upcoming new game mode in our Nexus Blitz Alpha thread.
Check out the full patch notes for details on any changes that interest you, and be sure to check out Riot's video summary below!
Balance Changes
Rune & Summoner Spell Changes
15-40 (at levels 1-18)⇒ 10-40 (at levels 1-18)Base Shielding:
30-80 (at levels 1-18)⇒ 35-80 (at levels 1-18)50-220 (at levels 1-18)⇒ 30-180 (at levels 1-18)Damage Ratio (AD):
0.5 bonus attack damage⇒ 0.4 bonus attack damageDamage Ratio (AP):
0.3 ability power⇒ 0.25 ability powerCooldown:
50-25 seconds (at levels 1-18)⇒ 25-20 seconds (at levels 1-18)9.6% bonus movement speed⇒ 6% bonus movement speedAbility Power:
16% bonus movement speed⇒ 10% bonus movement speed15-40⇒ 8-4010⇒ 7Magic Penetration:
8⇒ 620-60⇒ 10-30Cooldown:
20⇒ 10270 seconds⇒ 240 secondsOther Changes
Upcoming Skins & Chromas
The following skins will be released during patch 8.16:
Mecha Aurelion Sol (1350 RP)
Mafia Braum (1350 RP)
Cosmic Enchantress Lulu (1350 RP)
Cosmic Defender Xin Zhao (1350 RP)
Cosmic Queen Ashe (1350 RP)
The following chromas will be released during patch 8.16:
Mecha Aurelion Sol
Mafia Braum
Cosmic Enchantress Lulu
Cosmic Defender Xin Zhao
Cosmic Queen Ashe
Your Shop Returns!
Personalized discounts are back from August 16, 2018, at 11:AM PT – August 30, 2018, at 11:59 p.m. PT.
Share Your Thoughts!
That's it on our end, time to hear from you guys! What do you think of the champion and rune nerfs this patch? Do you feel that Riot is pushing the game in the right direction? Do you plan on playing any of the buffed tank champions thispatch? Will you be buying any of the new skins or chromas?
Let us know in the comments below!