The Udyr Rework

[quote=NicknameMy][quote][[Monkey's Agility]]: Entering a stance grants Udyr 10% Attack Speed and 5 Movement Speed for a short duration. This effect can stack up to 3 times. [[tiger stance]]: Persistent Effect: Increases Attack Speed by 20/25/30/35/40 %. Activation: Udyr's Attack Speed is increased by 15/20/25/30/35 % and Udyr's first attack rends his target, dealing an extra 30/80/130/180/230 (+1.5*AD) magic damage over 2 seconds. Cost: 47/44/41/38/35 Mana Cooldown: 6 Seconds [[turtle stance]]: Persistent Effect: Udyr restores 10/12/14/16/18 % of his damage as Health. Activation: Udyr gains a temporary shield that absorbs 60/100/140/180/220 (+0.5*AP) damage. Cost: 47/44/41/38/35 Mana Cooldown: 6 Seconds [[bear stance]]: Persistent Effect: Udyr mauls his target with such force that they are stunned for 1 second. This effect cannot occur on the same target for 6 seconds. Activation: Udyr gains 15/20/25/30/35 % increased Movement Speed for 2/2.3/2.5/2.8/3 seconds. He also ignores unit collision for the duration. Cost: 47/44/41/38/35 Mana Cooldown: 6 Seconds [[phoenix stance]]: Persistent Effect: The first attack and every third attack after, Udyr engulfs enemies in front of him in flame, dealing 40/80/120/160/200 (+0.45*AP) magic damage. Activation: Udyr sends out pulsing waves of fire dealing 15/25/35/45/55 (+0.25*AP) magic damage each second to nearby enemies for 5 seconds. Cost: 47/44/41/38/35 Mana Range: 325 Cooldown: 6 Seconds http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23644-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-3-22-2013 http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23694-unofficial-and-some-official-pbe-patch-notes-for-3[/quote] I really like what they did with his passive, his E and his R. The damage type change at Q is a so-so, while the W change is a nerf which makes [[udyr]] probably unviable in lane.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I like the changes, too! The reduced mana cost of abilities will allow for a much faster 2nd jungle clear, and can allow for more ganks. Phoenix stance change kinda caught me by surprise - i had to re-read it in order to see what they did xD Maybe phoenix style jungle udyr will come back into style. oh RIOT :P[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Well, but you also get no more mana back with [[turtle stance]], which means that you probably have even less mana, especially in the lane.[/quote]

[quote=A Chubby Baby]The Phoenix Stance change is real nice. Also Bear Stance's active now ignores unit collision, which helps his ganking potential.[/quote]

[quote=Wayne3100]Sounds like top lane Udyr will be easier to deal with since he'll be dealing pretty much physical damage only. I approve.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]The mana change for turtle is a very big change. You either have to itemize mana now or you need every blue buff. Don't like that. I think they should increase his base mana regen. And buildwise, he hast to build more damage now in order to be effective and he lost some defense aswell. I feel like, this rework is a giant nerf. BTW: Cleaver now a must on Tiger [[Udyr]].[/quote]

[quote=OTGBionicArm]Meh love how they thought it was a good idea to "remove the mana regen for the ability to CRIT" what fucking [[Udyr]] is building crit for that to matter?[/quote]

[quote=Vaan99]Also Phoenix now doesn't give ad or ap. I'm not sure if it was worth removing free stats in exchange for more reliable damage.[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]def the udyr changes are alright but i think they made some stupid decisions at the same time. I like the Q change but also don't like it, the e change is good, but...meh. Turtle pret useless now.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]Maybe [[udyr]] top lane build? Start: [icon=crystalline flask size=32]+ 2 [icon=health potion size=32] + 2 [icon=mana potion size=32] 1. [icon=Boots of Speed size=32] ([icon=boots of mobility size=24](roaming), [icon=boots of swiftness size=24](anti-slow), [icon=mercury's treads size=24](other cc / magic damage), [icon=ninja tabi size=24](physical damage) 2. [icon=chalice of harmony size=32]+[icon=bilgewater cutlass size=32]+[icon=the brutalizer size=32] 3. 1-2 Basic/Advanced tier defense item(s) ([[kindlegem]], [[warden's mail]], [[negatron cloak]], [[giant's belt]]..) 4. [icon=blade of the ruined king size=32] 5. [icon=the black cleaver size=32] 6. Finish that defense item into legendary/mythical tier. 7. Finish the other defense item into legendary/mythical tier. 8. [icon=ravenous hydra size=32] Defense items health: [icon=warmog's armor size=32], [icon=frozen mallet size=32], combo of 2 other defense items with high HP but also high resistance ([icon=randuin's omen size=24], [icon=spirit visage size=24]) Defense items armor: [icon=iceborn gauntlet size=32], [icon=frozen heart size=32], [icon=randuin's omen size=32] Defense item MR: [icon=runic bulwark size=32], [icon=mikael's crucible size=32], [icon=spirit visage size=32][/quote]