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[quote=Vynertje][quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Vynertje] @ Janitsu: Not sure, from what I've seen I don't think so because the heal gets applied before the healing reduction debuff removal. It will certainly be a very common pick for more defensive supports tho cause heal+barrier is OP on hypercarries. [/quote] Running [[Exhaust]] on ADCs again (like back in Season 1) seems to make a whole lot of sense again. It peels, helps you win duels, and lowers burst damage. Supports can then choose to run [[Heal]] for defensive lanes and late-game or [[Ignite]] for laning power and kill potential. [/quote] Problem with exhaust is it being less reliable than exhaust and requiring superb timing while barrier is a lot easier to use. It also doesn't help against long range mages.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Vynertje] [quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Vynertje] @ Janitsu: Not sure, from what I've seen I don't think so because the heal gets applied before the healing reduction debuff removal. It will certainly be a very common pick for more defensive supports tho cause heal+barrier is OP on hypercarries. [/quote] Running [[Exhaust]] on ADCs again (like back in Season 1) seems to make a whole lot of sense again. It peels, helps you win duels, and lowers burst damage. Supports can then choose to run [[Heal]] for defensive lanes and late-game or [[Ignite]] for laning power and kill potential. [/quote] Problem with exhaust is it being less reliable than exhaust and requiring superb timing while barrier is a lot easier to use. It also doesn't help against long range mages. [/quote] It does deal with stuff like [[Renekton]] and other bruisers who are usually a lot more problematic for an ADC than a mage like [[Ziggs]] is.[/quote]

[quote=IPodPulse][quote=Vynertje] [quote=IPodPulse] Hey what do you think of my Udyr jungle build. Anything you would change? [url=http://www.teryd.net/?app=buildcreator&b=Udyr&l=18&i=75,206,185,166,183,191&r=5245,5245,5245,5245,5245,5245,5245,5245,5245,5317,5317,5317,5317,5317,5317,5317,5317,5317,5290,5290,5290,5290,5290,5290,5290,5290,5290,5365,5365,5365&m=4112;4,4114;1,4122;3,4124;1,4132;1,4134;3,4142;3,4144;1,4152;3,4162;1,4211;2,4214;2,4221;1,4222;3,4232;1&s=6,10&t=0&]link[/url] The link contains everything from build, masteries, runes, etc [/quote] The build is good however I'd personally replace one offensive item for a defensive one, probably [[randuin's omen]]. This build is really low on HP for a tanky champion. [[flash]] is worth considering as well. [/quote] I will agree with you, [[randuin's omen]] is a great item on [[Udyr]]. But the reason I don't get it as my first item is because [[frozen heart]] helps me out more than [[randuin's omen]] would early game. Since my build uses [[feral flame]] I don't exactly have a way to regain my mana like [[spirit of the ancient golem]] or [[spirit of the elder lizard]] does. So As a way to respond to this I get frozen heart either after I get [[mercury's treads]] or after I get [[trinity force]]. It all depends on the situation. But just because I get [[frozen heart]] doesn't mean I think [[randuin's omen]] wont work for this build. I agree and beleive that [[randuin's omen]] is a very good item choice and like the reasons you mentioned makes this a good item from [[Udyr]]. I would get this item as my last item if I am doing fine but some more health would be nice or after [[frozen heart]] incase they have lots of armor pen or their adc is still being a problem. Also I find [[Flash]] to be a very good spell on [[udyr]] as well, I just prefer ghost because I tend to play very aggressive and being able to rush lanes with [[ghost]] and [[bear stance]] is extremely fun and effective.[/quote]

[quote=Xaioli][quote=IPodPulse] [quote=Xaioli] [quote=utopus] Wouldn't CDR be better with udyr? [/quote] Yeah I almost encourage 5% CDR in Offense and 5% in CDR blues to everyone. However if you saw his build, every rune was budget cost for IP. That 10% would fill the missing gap and hit CDR cap with the rest of his build. Along with that, armor seals can be replaced for health or health/level. But the fact that he listed cheap runes simply means that he couldn't afford these stronger alternatives which are a bit pricier. I think what I came up with was decent for what he has now with room for improvement with larger pools of expendable IP. [/quote] Oh no, I have lots of runes, i'm actually saving up some more money because I was planning the buy health seals all at once. If you have any other kinds of runes you would recommend just ask. I spend lots of IP on runes so I probably have most of the runes you are asking for. [/quote] I just replied to you in-game since you asked me that question there but I'll also post it here for any individuals that wanted an answer. They're expensive but I'm avid users of flat CDR blues. With 6 flat CDR glyphs, you gain +5% CDR and the offensive talent tree also provides you with another 5%. 10% CDR is huge and many people won't see how powerful it is until they see how much much more spammable their abilities are in the jungle thanks to their reduced cool-downs. Case in point - having 5% CDR plus an additional 5% from masteries outweighs the opportunity cost of going MR flat or MR/level. Also with your specific Udyr build, your total CDR comes to 30% so the 5% from runes and 5% from masteries will actually place you at the cap (40%). Also I believe it's too soon to be concrete with the recent rune changes but I believe that you can swap your yellow armor runes into flat HP or scaling HP. With the global armor buffs, you actually don't need that much armor anymore so getting effective HP for early skirmishes(flat) or scaling towards late game(scaling) should be a lot stronger than 6-7~ armor that you're fore-going.[/quote]

[quote=Joxuu]Finally decided to pick up [[karma]] support. Opinions, counters, synergy, items ?[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=Joxuu] Finally decided to pick up [[karma]] support. Opinions, counters, synergy, items ? [/quote] I'd go [[Spellthief's Edge]] -> [[Frostfang]] -> [[Sightstone]] -> [[Sorcerer's Shoes]] -> [[Talisman of Ascension]] -> [[Mikael's Crucible]] -> [[Liandry's Torment]]. Overall I'd say she's pretty strong in lane albeit mostly pre-6 as she doesn't have a real ultimate (Sorry [[Mantra]], you won't ever be a real ultimate). Synergises well with high mobility stuff like [[Sivir]] and [[Lucian]]. I'd say she does well against anything mage-like such as [[Annie]], [[Morgana]] and [[Nami]] and has trouble with tanky stuff like [[Leona]] and [[Thresh]] despite them being low-range.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]^that...I disagree that [[Thresh]] is much of an issue though. He tends to be kinda squish early, so you can poke him down fairly easily and shut his lane down without much trouble.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu][quote=GrandmasterD] [quote=Joxuu] Finally decided to pick up [[karma]] support. Opinions, counters, synergy, items ? [/quote] I'd go [[Spellthief's Edge]] -> [[Frostfang]] -> [[Sightstone]] -> [[Sorcerer's Shoes]] -> [[Talisman of Ascension]] -> [[Mikael's Crucible]] -> [[Liandry's Torment]]. Overall I'd say she's pretty strong in lane albeit mostly pre-6 as she doesn't have a real ultimate (Sorry [[Mantra]], you won't ever be a real ultimate). Synergises well with high mobility stuff like [[Sivir]] and [[Lucian]]. I'd say she does well against anything mage-like such as [[Annie]], [[Morgana]] and [[Nami]] and has trouble with tanky stuff like [[Leona]] and [[Thresh]] despite them being low-range. [/quote] She is great against poke and champions that can't heal themselves.[/quote]

[quote=GrandmasterD][quote=The_Nameless_Bard] ^that...I disagree that [[Thresh]] is much of an issue though. He tends to be kinda squish early, so you can poke him down fairly easily and shut his lane down without much trouble. [/quote] That's pretty much only in the early-game. The longer the lane lasts, the harder it gets. There's no way you can beat [[Thresh]] in all-ins and he gets really tanky so that's why I'd generally not pick [[Karma]] into [[Thresh]].[/quote]

[quote=Vynertje]Karma should be quite easy vs thresh because you can force him low really easily, he has no mobility to evade poke and you can easily dodge hooks with shields, if played well. Her problem is that she doesn't spike at level 6 whereas other champions do, and her speed buffs late game are only useful if you can control engages which is hard in solo queue. Besides that her damage is MASSIVE though. Also, I think I'll start tomorrow with the weekly format. Probably starting with Botlane first. I'll PM mowen to see if she can post it on the news.[/quote]