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Yew. Deadly matchup. You'll face a lot of these if you go top/mid as I do. Go tp, cloth armor, 4 pots. You'll be able to outstain him if you play well with rake and q to finish creeps. Never go on him as he'll win the trade and kill you with his passive. You can kill him if he makes the mistake to get hit by tower or by a canon minion. Otherwise push ur lane with rake and roam after 6. Don't play Talon into this. Change champion
Wukong
Tough one. He's going to jump on you and dodge one of your rake with his decoy so you won't be able to proc passive and stormraider to escape. Never jump on him as he outdamages you and will chase you to death. Play near your turret and bait him. If he jumps you under turret he can't decoy and you'll kill him with an e over turret and ult. Don't play Talon into this, change champion.
Quinn
You can't jump on her, she'll kite you and kill you. You can't poke her, she'll outpoke you. Wait until 6 and come in using a wall with mobility boots if she's in lane farming. You should win a full hp vs full hp all in if you'r able to get to her post 6. Don't play talon into this, change champion.
Kled
Toughest matchup for talon in my opinion. Kled is like wukong except he's also tanky and can jump twice. This op shield and invulnerabilty will caught you offguard when you see an opportunity. Don't play Talon into this. Change champion. If you are forced to, try to ask for gank and roam.
Rengar
Apparently this is super hard. I haven't test it yet so i'll need to test before confirming. From what I've heard, don't try this if you begin on Talon.
Darius
Most Darius's will be over-confident. He can't really reach you tho and once you land double rake on him, you'll out-trade him if you proc passive. So once your on him and proc passive stay right on top of him and dodge his q at full range. You can then go for a kill. Some Darius's are really good to. They'll go stormraider, ghost and flash and run you down in top lane. Be really careful against a good darius. You can dodge his noxian guillotine with your ult if you do it at the same time but he'll still have it. It's pretty easy to predict.
Riven
You'll destroy most riven. Really just poke her with rake. If you land double rake on her go for a q+AA. You can also go in with q and do rake after for an easier time. Do it twice for a kill pre-6. Wait for her shield before going in. Good rivens will be able to do the followings: dodge double rake with a q (don't go on her if she does), stun you just before you land on her with q (really tough for a riven in my opinion). After 6. Do the same but ult when she ults on you and escape. You'll waste her ult and escape easily. You can then kill her again. Never fight her with her ult unless you're fed.
Sion
Sion really can't do anything to you. He's a freekill. Proc your passive the best way you can. Note that you need stormraider to escape any slow into combo from him.
Jayce
This guy just received a nerf. You can kill him if you play well. Be careful to not get poked lvl 1 and all-in him at 2. You'll win the all-in and win post-6. Just don't get poked and pushed back when you jump on him.
Renekton
Crocodile's can be beasts. This one will underestimate you. Kill him at lvl 2 if you can proc passive. Don't miss rake in your all in or he'll outtrade you. If you manage to get a kill on him pre-6. This will be an easy matchup. Otherwise it's even post-6.
Nasus
Similar to sion. Stormraider will fully counter this guy. Against a Talon he really shouldn't be able to stack at all. If he becomes big. You really haven't done your job.
Poppy
Poppy. Truly op mechanic but she's becomig weak. All-in her when she loses her shield. Never gap-close on poppy as she can cancel your gap-closer with a well-time W. Just use your rake to poke and bait her into wasting her W/shield. Don't play near walls even if you're talon since she can perma stun you. If she wastes her slow to cs. Walk up to her and do a Q crit+aa then proc passive with W.
Singed
Tough one but you can manage to bully him around. Lvl 1 go behind your turret and wait him with rake when he goes for proxy. Poke him good before taking your cs at your turret. He'll have a hard time finishing his proxy. If he goes into lane. Kill him lvl 2. Don't get flinged into a bad spot and kite him until he's really to low to resist ur passive. If he gets fed be really careful for his all-in.
Rumble
Poke him with W and don't stand in flame spitter. All-in at lvl 2 and 6. Position yourself to not be in his ultimate you should be fine. Don't get slowed before going as he'll just chase you back after trade.
Illaoi
Illaoi is pretty weak pre-6. You really only need to dodge her curse. After that you can all-in. Problem with illaoi is even if you get one or two kill on her pre-6. You really can't fight her after that. She'll outburst you and hit you when you're invisible for a kill. Then she'll sustain and be annoying. Ask for a gank and don't let both you and your jungler get hit by her ultimate. She can 2v1. If you can't get a gank, roam or ask for your midlaner if he's a range mage to go top after 6.
Akali
Apparently hard. Need to test. Be careful.
Fiora
Don't miss your burst into her dodge and you will destroy her. She works a bit like riven. A good fiora will be able to dodge your combo and chase you down tho. So never take into account that you'll land everything on her Post-6, escape her ultimate while poking her with your own and with stormraider. It is really important that you snowball in this matchup or it will become really hard.
Gangplank
Don't chase him over barrels. Gank him like a jungler so you don't get poked by barels and all-in him. Remember his orange when you all-in. You should win pre-6 and after-6. If he uses his ulti elsewhere on the map, he becomes even more a free-kill.
Kayle
You can poke her with w and the all-in is easy pre-6 as she is really shquishy. Try to ult when she's in her ult and come back when it's done. If you mess this up she can become deadly for you with that ult.
Jax
Jax works a bit like pantheon, except he's weak early and strong later. Wait for his e to go down before going in. Pre-6 you will win most trades if you play this right. You can get a kill on him with ignite and passive. Post-6 be really careful. If he 1v1 you once, become really careful, roam and play with your team so he doesn't snowball on you.
Yasuo
Always poke him with W so he stay's low and don't have that little shield. If you land double rake, go on him and win your trade then escape with stormraider. If he dodges your rake with windwall don't go on him. Don't go on him with q as he can dodge the full rake with windwall. Overall easy matchup for Talon.
Tryndamere
Tryndamere can be tough if you aren't careful. You should be able to destroy him nontheless. Be extra careful at lvl since he already has all his damage. If it means to flash lvl 1 do it. It's really the only time he can kill you. From lvl 2 and on, Poke him with W. If he e on you, Q+AA him and leave with stormraider. If you landed 2 rake, he's going to think twice before jumping on you since it will mean his death. If he becomes low enough (half-hp) all in him with passive and ignite pre-6. Post-6 do the same and wait his ulti if he does it with yours.
Jarvan IV
Played this once or twice. He's tough since he does have more damage than you early on (wich is really rare). If you dodge his combo tho he becomes a free kill as he is really squishy. You can e over his wall so be prepared to it. He can one-shot you if he gets a lead so consider building armor if you are losing.
Teemo
This little scum is super easy. In fact, he really can't resit your rake as it does push-in the wave and poke him good at the same time. Once you have creep management advantage. All-in him with a Q gap-closer and win this easy matchup. It becomes really bad for him post-6.
Maokai
Maokai has a weak early game while yours is devastating. He won't be able to resist your lethality poke and trade with passive. Colossus is rather weak in 7.3 so he can't tank much. He can setup ganks easily so watch for those.
Garen
He hurt's more than you think but is almost immobile. Stormraider well help you leave once you do your little trade otherwise he'll chase you down. Don't let him recover (passive) with your rake. If he gets a lead post-6 this can get hard. Do not stand in his spin. Garen is nontheless an easy first blood with ignite as he can hardly escape you.
Dr. Mundo
All mundo does is farm with cleaver. If he comes too close do one of your fatal combo and leave. Do it twice for a first blood. Post-6, unless he has tons of armor, ignite him and kill him with your ultimate, ignite and passive. Eat one or two cleavers in the face to deny him cannon creeps with his cleaver. Recover with Q last hit on creeps.
Irelia
Interesting. She works a bit like wu kong. She can burst you and run you down easily with her reset. Watch the low cs near you and dont stand next to them as she'll reset on them and into you. Poke her down and try a first blood pre-6. A good irelia will play passively tho. Be really careful at lvl 6 as she will kill you in an all-in. Escape with your ulti if she does.
Nautilus
All Nautilus does is shield himself big time. Wait for it to go down and deny him. You can really bully him a bit like maokai and sion. Colossus is weak since the nerf now so you'll be able to outtrade him.
Gnar
Gnar is really weak nowadays. Be careful when he changes form. You can deny him big time since he has a short range for a ranged champion.
Assassin him Post-6 too. Never really had an hard time against this guy.
Olaf
Olaf run downs people. He'll try to do so lvl 1 and 2. You really need to go stormraider to leave if he tries at 2 while bursting him. Be extracareful at lvl 1. A bit like tryndamere.
Kennen
Kennen should be easy but I always meet good kennen mains. She'll be extra careful and the lane will get boring. You need to find an opportunity to assassinate her with the walls when she goes for cs. Don't get poked and let her get stun stacks on you. Kennen got nerfed badly recently so her late game isn't what it used to be. She can't burst you unless she's fed. She shouldn't be fed against you. You'll be fine.
Malphite
Try to kill him lvl 2 as he's pretty weak early. He'll have too much armor for you to do anything to him later and he will kill you. Remember his e slows your attack speed so you won't be able to proc your passive. It's a bit like pantheon and jax. You can't proke your passive easily.
Swain
Try to kill him early. Don't get snared. Ignite him in an all-in post-6. He can poke you but you can too. If you get a kill early you'll be fine. Otherwise this gets harder and harder. You need ignite and Mortal's reminder.
Camille
Tough one apparently. Haven't really test it yet tho. The only time I did I wrecked her so I can't tell what happens against a good Camille.
My name is Jaws Lightweight, i'm a Talon main since season 6. I am currently platinum 1 and this build my good sirs, will help you grind and understand the thrue/best power of Talon. You will become savage. I will explain every single little thing to make you better at winning games. I have played since season 2 and I do have a lot of knowledge about this game. Now let's get started.
So this build will use the power of Lethality and cunning tree to be the most effective. I'm going to recommend what is the best thing to do even if it means to not play Talon. I'll try to update the build every patch or so. So it'll stay fresh and ready. As it is right now, Talon is insanely op. Platinum + players have a winrate of 54+% on him. You want to play/ban Talon.
Explanation on top lane talon.
Explanation on top lane talon.
So, as crazy as it seems, you want to play talon Top and Mid. Personnaly I prefer going talon top first and then mid. Talon top has more bad matchups but you get to snowball easily since the lane is long and the jungle pressure little (when warded effectively). Indeed, going top for a jungler is a long way and he most likely have only 2 paths to gank you. Once you get firstblood on a top laner, he can't really freeze and farm at his tower like a mage can do. He's just not safe. Talon mid is good since you have the power to roam easily. I find it harder to snowball in mid since the mage can shove from afar and don't give much **** in higher elos. Once a mage has zonya he also becomes too hard to kill and focus. If you don't believe on talon top, please visit this website and read a bit: http://lolalytics.com/champion/Talon/Top/
- Easily countered. - Vulnerable to CC lock - Bad teamfight against Pro-peel teams. - Doesn't fit well to build a balanced team. - Vulnerable to ganks pre-6 and post-6 without ult.
Masteries
Masteries
SO, in this very meta, you definetly want to go in the cunning tree as talon. Why? Because Riot Games made Lethality op. The Cunning tree gives you Precision wich grants base Lethality combined with lethality per/level. Next, I prefer to go Wanderer instand of Savagery as it gives you the power to roam easily through map and you already have high base AD to last hit properly. I then choose Assassin , Merciless , Sorcery, Natural Talent and Double Edged Sword to maximise the damage I do. I also get Dangerous Game to win those numberous clutch fights. I get Stormraider's Surge because I feel like the movement speed, especially in top lane, is just better than the burst that Thunderlord's Decree would give. With Stormraider's Surge you can : Escape when trading against slowing oppponents such as Nasus and more, reposition after bursting a carry with your ult in late game, escape a gank, chase an opponent etc. I feel like it's just better overal. The proof is that it has a better winrate in Plat+ if we look at Lolalytics: http://lolalytics.com/champion/Talon/Top/
Greater Mark of Lethality: So in this meta, you NEED some lethality in your rune page. It can be in quints or mark, but you NEED those. I can't put a bigger stress on it.
Greater Glyph of Magic Resist: I prefer to get those instand of CDR since they will greatly benefit your laning phase against AP opponents.
seals
Greater Seal of Armor: Get those against AD matchups. They will help you fight those matchups and let you win your lane.
seals
Greater Seal of Scaling Health: Obviously you don't keep armor against AP matchups (even if you consider autoattacks). So you want to get scaling health to have an advantage through all game in your matchup.
Spells
Spells
PASSIVE
ABILITY
Blade's end (Passive): I could honestly debates on this being one of the best passives in the game. This is an additional spell in itself, I could compare this to a Swain Torment except it is AD and scales with a 2.0 bonus physical attack damage. For those of you who don't know, this is an amazing scaling. This is also what makes Talon really good at lvl 2. Considering most people have only 2 spells at this level, talon can out-trade and make cool firstbloods. The way you proc this passive is simple: land 3 blades (spells) on an opponent and land an autoattack. You should keep an idea of how many stacks are on champions to know when you can burst them with the passive.
Q
noxian diplomacy (Q): This is a spell in itself and not an empower autoattack like before. You can use this to either gap-close when they are too far away or make it crit when in autoattack range. This will add 1 stack of Blade's End on your foe. If you can and need to, flash to be in range of the crit. This will also grant hp if you last-hit minions with it. Don't hesitate to spam it as it uses little mana. You can also dodge skillshots or gapclose a bit with the full extended spell.
Assassin's path (E): PAAAAARKOURRRRRRR. This spell is what makes Talon a swaglord. Use this to roam fast as hell and surprise opponents. You can use this spell to go forward to go back to your lane. There are so many ways to use this spell. Just don't hesitate to use it. Just don't forget you can't jump back so always plan a wall to escape once you engage. In the top-lane I don't use the walls unless until I get ganked. I always bait people when they are too low by faking a roam. Just leave top-lane and come back by using a wall. Try to land in their face and get a free-kill. This will surprise turret hugers and work most of the time.
R
Shadow assault (R): That is a cool ultimate. The blade's land one stack when you drop them and they hit and one spell on the way back to you. Note that you can make the blades follow an opponent if you autoattack him before going ulting and right before finishing your ult. Any spell in this will reveal you so be careful spaming. Note that Assassin's Path will not reveal you. Most of the time I use the invisibility to escape when I land on someone. I rarely use it as an engage. As you will get focused and kill after landing. Also, you need it to reposition and decide: either you finish someone or escape.
Ranked Play
Ranked Play
Early Game :
LVL 1: Basically use your Rake as often as possible to both last hit a CS and poke your opponent. If the player you play against isn't smart and goes near you to reach a cs, don't hesitate to plug-in an autoattack. Just be careful against champions with a strong LVL 1 such as Olaf and Tryndamere who can all-in you at this stage of the game.
In most cases LVL 1 has is a matter of whoever survives with the Highest amount of hp.
Watch your experience and right before turning LVL 2, put yourself in a good position be able to land Noxian Diplomacy and do a double Rake. You can surprise most unaware laners and get first blood easily.
LVL 2 : Abuse your Blade's End. This is your best stage. Only a few champions can beat you at this level such as Pantheon. Try to poke the enemy and get a double stack your Rake. If you ever manage to get it, Noxian Diplomacy on him and follow with an autoattack to proc Blade's End. Only this should win you the laning phase and most likely guarantee you a kill with ignite. Sometimes you can also start and bait a fight by going in with Noxian Diplomacy first. Thay way you can position better for landing a double Rake and get a kill with Blade's End.
LVL 3 : At this point you should keep being agressive in your lane by landing key Rakes. You want to put a second point in your Rake if you feel safe enough. If you don't know where the enemy jungler or mid laner is and you are to pushed off / don't have Flash, put a point into Assassin's Path
... Thank you for reading will continue later
Items
Items
GO TO
Long Sword: Always buy this lvl 1, unless you are playing against pantheon. This is better than a Doran's Blade since you get Refillable Potion with it and can build it into any items. So if you have no clue what to buy when backing, get some Long Swords.
Youmuu's Ghostblade: I get this when behind or just not that much ahead in my matchup. The active helps you escape and get tough-to-get kills. You have a little less damage then going for Duskblade of Draktharr but you gain better overall ability with 10% CDR and the active.
CORE
Duskblade of Draktharr: This is the best item to get on Talon when ahead in my opinion. The passive of this does scale with lethality meaning that the more lethality you have, the bigger bigger bigger the damage, exponential. So if you are ahead and have the cash for it, build this for extra snowball potential. Remember that the passive of this works when unseen for 1 second. So wait a good 1 second when in your ulti to maximise your damage. Try to use the bushes once you get the item when laning to trade effectively.
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