Don't take Will of the Ancients I know it gives you sustain, but there's usually only one other AP champion who'd benefit from in, in which case, they would build it.
For the quintessence, I suggest taking gp10 and add Morellonomicon
Check out my support Elise guide if you want to get some suggestions :3
http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/a-guide-to-support-elise-319950

The flaw in your reasoning is the false assumption that you will be dealing large amounts of damage. That is the reason why supports don't build spell vamp. They don't have enough damage to make it worthwhile.

Well, I actually play AP supports vastly differently to what you have here.

Let's see, I usually go:

Chalice of Harmony rush into kage's lucky pick, followed by Sightstone/ Ruby Sightstone and Haunting Guise as my basic 3 core item. I sometimes switch the Chalice of Harmony for philosopher's stone, depending.

If I need hp, I'll rush a Kindlegem into a Locket of the Iron Solari. If I'm ahead, I'll build Fiendish Codex and then choose to complete either Athene's Unholy Grail or Morellonomicon. If I complete Athene's Unholy Grail, I'll proceed to Twin Shadows.

If I've gone with Locket of the Iron Solari, I'll rush Twin Shadows anyway.

After this is situational. Finding time to complete Liandry's Torment is a luxury, but not an immediate necessity.

On Lux or Orianna, I might also build a Mejai's Soulstealer or something similar.

That would be a fine build; really everything past sightstone is situational. I consider both Bulwark and Locket to be jungler items. I main jungle and build both pretty much every time. I don't like bulwark on supports because its soo expensive, but if your jungler isn't building it you definitely should. Then, if you need a morellonomicon against a soraka or someone like that in lane, feel free to get it early. Alternately, if you need a mikael's crucible and then feel like you need more CDR to be effective (especially if you ran 1-13-16 masteries or something like that without the CDR) go ahead and get a Morellonomicon. Don't feel like you have to follow my build just because its on the internet. also if you're against a jungle mundo or volibear you should definitely pick up a morellonomicon a bit later in the game so they can't chase you out of the fight with their tons of health regen. The items in the example build are just that, an example, it's not a set build for every game. I will say, though, the more I use wota the less I like it. I guess there's a reason the pros stopped building wraith spirit on her in the jungle. Hopefully someday I'll get around to doing the math on this. I'd say the majority (however slight) of the time, the way I play her, Abyssal is still the better option, but if you prefer morellonomicon, go for it.

I can't help it if what you write is bad. :(



Well, no. I just want you to get it right.



The thing is, you're actually really attached to the build as it is, so you're trying to fit Morellonomicon in where it seems convenient. However, with the addition of Morellonomicon, you actually have to rethink your whole item path and consider more effective ways to get to where you need to.

For example (as a suggestion, not an obligatory change), suggest that your jungler or top laner buy a Locket of the Iron Solari instead. Rush a Morellonomicon, followed by Aegis of the Legion/ Runic Bulwark. Alternatively, skip Shurelya's Battlesong altogether in favour of Mikael's Blessing or selling your philosopher's stone later in the game to make time and space for Morellonomicon.

There's different ways to do it, but I feel just trying to slide Morellonomicon in as it is right now might be bad, considering you already thought up a completely different type of item path.

THERE'S NO PLEASING YOU. You wanna rewrite this section for me. like seriously. I thought about adding in some theorycrafting in that section, but then I was just too lazy. I would like to see the numbers though. I don't think wota is actually that good. I played a few games today with each and Abyssal still feels the best to me, but real games aren't objective, so I can't say for sure. I did feel like morellonomicon was better than wota though.

Just read your 'Morellonomicon vs. Abyssal Scepter vs. Will of the Ancients' section. There's still too much misinformation here and poor theorycrafting.

Side note: I didn't downvote cos you didn't like Morellonomicon I downvoted for your reasoning behind the choice.

Will of the Ancients is extremely cost-ineffective and Elise doesn't really benefit from spellvamp and nor does the ADC she is laning with. It's also questionable whether other laners will benefit from it either.

Abyssal Mask is a decent aura item, but again, her ADC doesn't benefit much from it and the component parts of Morellonomicon are more likely to be more useful. A Negatron Cloak is nice, but a Blasting Wand is easily beaten by kage's lucky pick (which is a GP10) and Fiendish Codex (because of the additional CDR stat). Then factor in that you're laning against an AD lane and then you'll realise that a Negatron Cloak isn't as initially nice as you thought it was. Especially since you can just get a Runic Bulwark, which is 10x better as a support magic resist item.

An AP item for your consideration is Haunting Guise into Liandry's Torment. Haunting Guise is a good low-cost item with decent stats.

good point, I guess if you just survive til you can get a ruby crystal (which shouldn't take that long or be that hard) gold quints would be better thanks for the input :)

Okay, then how about the support's poke? Because half of the poking supports take MPen marks, meaning your starting MR is about 22 (18% damage reduction). Most poke with a skill. Let's look at some common ones:

Hymn of Valor: 50 + 0.7 AP
Glitterlance: 80 + 0.5 AP
Starcall: 60 + 0.4 AP
Light Binding: 60 + 0.7 AP

Thresh with Flay passive: 46 physical + 36.8 magic (assuming he waits to charge it up)

Now if we take 3 Greater Quintessence of Golds, that's +3 gold per 10, or 18 gold a minute. Over the course of a 30 minute game, that comes out to 513 gold (because GP doesn't start until 1:30). Meaning you have more than enough gold to purchase a Ruby Crystal.

Gold guints would be great. The highest aa damage for any adc at level 1 is kennen at 54.6. with runes masteries and a longsword or dorans blade he could probably deal 78 damage with one aa but that is without calculating in your armor. but with gp10 quints you could buy health quicker...I think it is really just personal preference when it comes to quints (within reason)

and yeah, the flat health quints get pretty useless pretty quick I just take them cuz elise is super squishy early and I dont take defensive masteries

Runes: Gold quints over flat health any day. 78 extra health may seem huge at level 1 but it's one autoattack from the ADC. And I scarcely need to mention they become useless past very early game.