7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=OTGBionicArm]I believe her damage was toned down in exchange for more usable utility and lowered mana costs. Cant remember exactly.[/quote]

[quote=DillButt64]her ult got changed so it doesnt cost any mana, before it did cost mana sorta like olafs ult from 100/50/0 if i believe to just 0 at all ranks also what do you think of mid lane karma? you have her in top and support but shes not in mid lane[/quote]

[quote=Vapora Dark]Randuin's was nerfed because how the hell is an ADC meant to kite if there's a 1 in 4 chance of them getting slowed if they attack enemies? It's good enough without the slow, they shouldn't be punished for having proper mechanics.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=Vapora Dark] Randuin's was nerfed because how the hell is an ADC meant to kite if there's a 1 in 4 chance of them getting slowed if they attack enemies? It's good enough without the slow, they shouldn't be punished for having proper mechanics. [/quote] There is no RNG element to Randuin's (old) passive. You're slowed when you attack a target with [[Randuin's Omen]] every time.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]AD carries are in a fine spot, not sure why riot wants to make them even better with rands nerfs. Look at the top of the ladder in almost every region, its littered with ad carry players for a reason.[/quote]

[quote=Janitsu]What do you think about [[Essence Reaver]] on marksmen and other champions in general?[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=FalseoGod] LB will remain playable but has increased in hard matchups and people can actually fight back. Has for randuin's, I don't even. Also rip [[twitch]] [/quote] Twitch was picked for amazing ult that was not nerfed. He only got minor dmg nerf he still out trades all adcs besides Lucian. Only thing that was real nerf is stealth he more like a jinx or kog.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=Cooper112] [quote=FalseoGod] LB will remain playable but has increased in hard matchups and people can actually fight back. Has for randuin's, I don't even. Also rip [[twitch]] [/quote] Twitch was picked for amazing ult that was not nerfed. He only got minor dmg nerf he still out trades all adcs besides Lucian. Only thing that was real nerf is stealth he more like a jinx or kog. [/quote] 6 second stealth as his most reliable escape is trash, his early damage actually got hit he doesn't outrade as well as you claim. He's always been about the ult but is a lot less safe now in lane and can be sent back to the dark age never to see light again by competent counterplay and junglers.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Twitch is probably pretty screwed to be honest. They nerfed his early game damage really hard, made his escape not an escape and nerfed his core item for early game ([[bilgewater cutlass]]). His niche of being the only strong late game ADC who doesn't suck early is likely gone. I feel like they went really overboard with the nerfs on Twitch considering that the item changes were already going to shift power away from him and that Lucian got away with nothing but a light tap on the wrist. But whatever, this is mostly conjecture.[/quote]

[quote=utopus]Yeah - the stealth nerf is going to kill him. 6 seconds of vulnerability is just pure misery for any ADC that's getting junped on. Here's where i wish twitch just had his old 60 second long ambush roflmao[/quote]