A questionaire on the supportive role

[quote=Trophycase]0 cs support is the only way it will ever work, farm is just superior on carries than on supports, and nothing is going to change that. The whole reason the champs are support is because they are useful without items. Allowing them to give all the gold to carries. Any other MOBA game has the same concept.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard][b]This a fucking game.[/b] So yea...if it's not fun for me I don't do it. EDIT: 0 CS support has no health, they feed, we lose...that's been my experience with most support players.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]:? As a support I usually get more health than a carry. [[Heart of Gold]] and [[Kindlegem]] are usually pretty core, and often I'll get [[Aegis of the Legion]] as well.[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]My experience is that they don't bother to rush the health items, so they don't even have the health to make up for everything else.... Whereas I rush catalyst on every support I play (with the exception of Janna, since I build randuin's first on her I rush a HoG) and build a rod of ages, what I build after that is completely situational, and depending on the game I'll get more or less farm. End game I'll have in the range of 30-60 CS total if it's a normal length. Not enough to totally effect my laning partner's farm (a few creeps a wave), but it's enough to get me decent items.[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]You watching the tourney, Nameless? Ashe v Tristana. Tristana pushed waves, got all the creeps, Ashe was always out of lane, recalling etc. Tristana got Infinity Edge, Last Whisper, Quicksilver Sash and Zerk's when Ashe only had Zerk's, Zeal and Infinity Edge. Just saying, a fed carry is better than a fed support. Maybe the supports you get stuck with just suck :/[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]You do realize that 60 CS in a 30 minute game entire game an average of 2 minions every other creep wave.... 60 CS/30 minutes = 2 CS a minute minions spawn every 30 seconds.[/quote]

[quote=EvilDice]C, B, B, A[/quote]

[quote=jhoijhoi]With the sustain changes, I can appreciate supports taking solo lane, or equal CS bot if they are going to be doing good things for the team, like Soraka or Karma. Soraka can now build literal tank and do better for the team. And Karma, of course, is great with those AP items. Don't know how Sona is going to be played now, certainly not for the armour buff =.=[/quote]

[quote=Bryun]CBEB[/quote]

[quote=The_Nameless_Bard]Lol Imma play DPS Mage Soraka and mid with her Like a baws. They buffed her base heals. So, most likely, people will just keep doing what they're doing with the excuse that her low AP ratios make AP worthless. Karma has always been better as an AP carry....and since they're not going to change her, she will still be one of my favorite AP champs. To get back on topic: Notice how [b]most[/b] of the people who main supports don't like the support playstyle atm. While all the other players avidly support it. This is the point I am trying to make here. The people who main supports are the ones who avidly play them, yet the current playstyle is not based on what they want to do, despite them being the people who are actually playing supports. This is a team game, learn to share. If the ~2 minions I kill every other creep wave effects your farm that much don't lane with me, seriously. I'm not going to spoil [i]my[/i] game so you can have ~40 extra gold every minute. I can work with the farm I get with any champ: carry, tank, support...It doesn't matter. The ability to adapt and being good at what you do marks someone as a good player, not some predetermined playstyle.[/quote]