Riven Build

[quote=Symphunny]Whats the best way to build [[Riven]]? For me, since i havent played Riven enough yet, i build her like so: [[boots of speed]] + [[health potion]] x3 > [[wriggle's lantern]] > [[mercury's treads]] > [[the brutalizer]] > [[phage]] > [[zeal]] > [[trinity force]] > [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]] > Armor Item or Magic Resist Item > [[infinity edge]] yes, idk why but i like building crit riven xD and its probably not the best why to build so im asking you guys what you think is the best way to build her. thanks (:[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17]I'm not a fan of [[Trinity Force]] on [[Riven]] at all. [[Sheen]] procs relative to your base AD, and [[Riven]] doesn't have high stats in that area. It's too expensive for too little benefit. I'm also not a fan of [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]]. [[The Brutalizer]] is fantastic, but Youmuu's is rather bland on her, at least from my experience. It's good for chasedown and hitting your passive, but it just seems less than worth it until late game. I personally like turning [[Phage]] into [[Frozen Mallet]]. HP, some AD, and that slow is wonderful for keeping targets in range of your skills. However, that's mostly because I build [[Riven]] more as a tanky dps champ than a hard-damage champ. [[Riven]]'s damage is good no matter how you build her. She really reminds me of [[Garen]] in a lot of ways, so that's probably my main source of item inspiration.[/quote]

[quote=L1LShadow]"I" build her as boots + potions -> [[the brutalizer]] -> [[phage]] -> [[atma's impaler]] -> [[Frozen Mallet]] Survivability -> upgrade to [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]] -> Survivability/Damage depending on team.] Early brutalizer for damage and penetration, you really start to hurt now. Phage because it's cheap and you don't want to rush a mallet early game so just get the recipe item. Atma's, now you do about 170-200 damage with survivability. Frozen Mallet for extra health and damage from upgrade and atmas. Just use ghostblade during cooldowns and you'll hurt a lot.[/quote]

[quote=SakuyaFM][quote=Beeswarm17] I'm not a fan of [[Trinity Force]] on [[Riven]] at all. [[Sheen]] procs relative to your base AD, and [[Riven]] doesn't have high stats in that area. It's too expensive for too little benefit. I'm also not a fan of [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]]. [[The Brutalizer]] is fantastic, but Youmuu's is rather bland on her, at least from my experience. It's good for chasedown and hitting your passive, but it just seems less than worth it until late game. I personally like turning [[Phage]] into [[Frozen Mallet]]. HP, some AD, and that slow is wonderful for keeping targets in range of your skills. However, that's mostly because I build [[Riven]] more as a tanky dps champ than a hard-damage champ. [[Riven]]'s damage is good no matter how you build her. She really reminds me of [[Garen]] in a lot of ways, so that's probably my main source of item inspiration. [/quote] If TF procs base AD + 150%, then @ LV18 AD, it'll do 156 bonus damage. You don't really need the early Brutalizer, but it's there if you feel like you really do need it. Rushing a [[Last Whisper]] after your [[Frozen Mallet]] is a much more long-term investment. 40% is a big deal. Even if you're going against that [[Rammus]] with 300 armor, that's a 120 armor reduction. 180 is roughly where [[Leona]] and [[Jarvan IV]] stop at when their shields are up. [[Infinity Edge]] is such an auto-attack item. Riven doesn't autoattack enough, nor does she have enough Crit % to make good use of this. A couple of Bloodthirsters is a much more attractive option. Just proc-ing your passive gives quite a bit of lifesteal. [quote=L1LShadow] "I" build her as boots + potions -> [[the brutalizer]] -> [[phage]] -> [[atma's impaler]] -> [[Frozen Mallet]] Survivability -> upgrade to [[Youmuu's Ghostblade]] -> Survivability/Damage depending on team.] Early brutalizer for damage and penetration, you really start to hurt now. Phage because it's cheap and you don't want to rush a mallet early game so just get the recipe item. Atma's, now you do about 170-200 damage with survivability. Frozen Mallet for extra health and damage from upgrade and atmas. Just use ghostblade during cooldowns and you'll hurt a lot. [/quote] My goal is to keep at least 250 AD with a [[Last Whisper]], and getting past 2.3k health where getting an [[Atma's Impaler]] equates to getting a [[B. F. Sword]] with armor.[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17]I'd like to mention that I get [[The Brutalizer]] mostly for the CDR and AD. The ArPen is... nice, but easy to compensate for. That is a good point on TF, though. It's just too expensive for me, and [[Riven]] doesn't make use out of all that TF has to give. If you've got the spare cash lying around, or you want a good final item, it's not a bad idea. I do agree with IE, too. I've tried it on Riven, but the only way it's useful is that it's the single highest non-stacking damage item in the game. I, like you, prefer the cheaper BT. I'm going to have to try swapping out [[The Brutalizer]] for [[Last Whisper]] in those longer games. 10% CDR is the only reason to keep it, and by then I'd just buy a blue elixir for that.[/quote]

[quote=SakuyaFM][quote=Beeswarm17] I'd like to mention that I get [[The Brutalizer]] mostly for the CDR and AD. The ArPen is... nice, but easy to compensate for. That is a good point on TF, though. It's just too expensive for me, and [[Riven]] doesn't make use out of all that TF has to give. If you've got the spare cash lying around, or you want a good final item, it's not a bad idea. I do agree with IE, too. I've tried it on Riven, but the only way it's useful is that it's the single highest non-stacking damage item in the game. I, like you, prefer the cheaper BT. I'm going to have to try swapping out [[The Brutalizer]] for [[Last Whisper]] in those longer games. 10% CDR is the only reason to keep it, and by then I'd just buy a blue elixir for that. [/quote] I've seen people with double Bloodthirsters and a Warmogs, dealing tons of damage (stealing that off Phreak for a second). Until late game comes in or someone breaks 150 armor (or at least when enemies start getting a Chain Vest), holding off on a Last Whisper leaves room for more raw damage or even hybrid mitigation/health-damage items. Seriously though, if you get an IE and TF in one game, that's one helluva long game.[/quote]

[quote=Beeswarm17][quote=SakuyaFM] I've seen people with double Bloodthirsters and a Warmogs, dealing tons of damage (stealing that off Phreak for a second). Until late game comes in or someone breaks 150 armor (or at least when enemies start getting a Chain Vest), holding off on a Last Whisper leaves room for more raw damage or even hybrid mitigation/health-damage items. Seriously though, if you get an IE and TF in one game, that's one helluva long game. [/quote] Yeah, [[Last Whisper]] is a fantastic item. No denying that. It's especially useful if you're trying to make damage your primary focus. It's good anywhere, really. And yeah, if you have IE and TF, it's really dragged on. It's rare to have both in any game. I'd actually never try to get both.[/quote]

[quote=Symphunny]So basically: [[boots of speed]] + [[health potion]] x3 > [[wriggle's lantern]] > [[mercury's treads]] > [[the brutalizer]] > [[phage]] > [[the bloodthirster]] > [[frozen mallet]] > [[atma's impaler]] > Sell [[the brutalizer]] for [[Last Whisper]] Or instead, a more balanced build: [[boots of speed]] + [[health potion]] x3 > [[phage]] > [[mercury's treads]] > [[the brutalizer]] > [[the bloodthirster]] > [[Atma's impaler]] > [[frozen mallet]] > [[Force of Nature]] > Sell [[the brutalizer]] for [[Last Whisper]] any ideas?[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I want to just troll here and say "get a [[Manamune]]" Her mana is bugged. She gains mana but, it does nothing for her directly. EDIT: Now I can't find where I saw it... Ah well. Disregard this unless you want to try it in a real game or something.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Hotshot likes Atmogg's on her but feels it delays her usefulness too long. Try a brutalizer first and this helps substantially. Bruta Warmogg's Atma's FoN GA Blood Thirster?[/quote]