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Riot Meddler Post: Fighter more itemization

Creator: NicknameMy July 28, 2015 2:01pm
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NicknameMy wrote:
For Sticking Power, try my creative guides and you will have sticking power :D.


Your Garen is about as sticky as a lubed up man trying to cling to a glass wall.
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Hahahaha telling me my items are bad HHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAhA
Listen buddy don't judge someone's items if your only level 13
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the skarner changes seem like theyre only good if youre winning later in the game and can keep control of all the zones, also they gave him the naut/tahm MS which kinda sucks

the only changes that look kinda good are the darius ones cuz he could easily get caught up after losing a lane by getting an execute off early
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New items seem decent, I wanna see exactly how short is the Delay on Darius Q (even if he heals now), the best thing about it was how instant it was, allowing you to harass with it better as well as AA Q AA W for double auto cancel.

Now it won't even give hemorrhage unless you hit with the axe. Hm. It just seems like his lane phase is gonna be ****tier. Hence why I jungle with him :^)
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Can't wait to go play a game as Dr. Mundo, get ahead, build a Titanic Hydra and laugh at my enemies who'll be taking damage based on my maximum health. Definitely eager to try it out. Not so sure about the other one, since I don't know a lot of champions with good base AD...
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One thing to note about Garen: His Spin has always the same duration but the damage will be faster and this way more often applied late. This makes your damage against the villan just insane. Also, Boots of Swiftness greatly reduce the selfslow, so they are pretty much core. Also, since slows don't stack, if you are already slowed, the selfslow doesn't apply.

Morde has a 0.6 AD scaling on E, and your Q scales obviously with it as well, if you count all 3 attacks together by 260% AD (and AP)! And with W you can heal. The perfect anti-ADC laner.

You should also consider to build Boots of Swiftness + Zepyhr + Blade of the Ruined King on him, as well as Rylai's Crystal Scepter. This way you can make him get close to the enemy.

With this proposed build, your 3 attacks + Q deal 1575 damage! Of course, 700 damage with resistances, but still. Of course, you could get Trinity Force instead of Zephyr, but the lack of tenacity would probably kill you.
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Newest updates:

Garen:
P - Perseverance
HP/sec at level 16 1.6% >>> 2.0% (Live value)
Q - Decisive Strike
(Added) Garen now moves up to 50 units toward his target when attacking with Decisive Strike from max attack range
W - Courage
Armor/MR per kill 0.2 >>> 0.3
Armor/MR per Champion/LargeMonster/EpicMonster kill 1 >>> 0.3
Armor/MR cap per rank 10/15/20/25/30 >>> 30 all ranks
E - Judgment
Base Damage 12/16/20/24/28 >>> 20/25/30/35/40
(Removed) Garen is no longer slowed when moving toward champions he's hitting with Judgment
(Added) Judgment now deals 25% reduced damage when hitting multiple units
(Removed) Judgment no longer deals reduced damage to minions
*R - Demacian Justice - unchanged

Skarner:
Base Stats
Base Movement Speed 330 >>> 345 (Live values)
Health/lvl 84.25 >>> 90
P - Crystal Spires
Zone area of effect increased by ~63%
Zone Attack Speed 35%+5%/lvl >>> 42%+6%/lvl
Zone lockout duration 10 seconds >>> 15 seconds
Zone vision duration 10 seconds >>> 1.5 seconds
Maximum gold given to a team on capture capped at 30g total (split evenly), or 15g if captured solo
Neutral zones are no longer able to be captured until 1:30 game time
Q - Crystal Slash
Total AD ratio .32/.34/.36/.38/.40 >>> .33/.36/.39/.42/.45
W - Crystalline Exoskeleton - unchanged
E - Fracture
Slow Duration 2.0 >>> 2.5 (Live values)
Mana Cost 50/55/60/65/70 >>> 55 all ranks
R - Impale - unchanged

Darius:
Q - Mana cost reduced to 30 from 40
W - Slow is now 90% at all ranks from 40/50/60/70/80%
E - Slow adjusted to 90% for 1 second from 99% for 0.75
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Why can't they just remove these nerfs without nerfing something else in return? Lol. Even if they just gave Garen the villain system and changed nothing else, he'd still be.. bad.
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His damage on Judgemnt is actually increased by a big time, especially lategame. 400 (+ 550% AD) in 3 seconds against an enemy target that is alone.^^
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NicknameMy wrote:
His damage on Judgemnt is actually increased by a big time, especially lategame. 400 (+ 550% AD) in 3 seconds against an enemy target that is alone.^^


That movement speed nerf on it is absolutely idiotic though. He can't stick on a target himself now. They nerfed his silence, and then they nerfed the movespeed. There's no way to stick on a target for the full duration now. Also, someone on Reddit mentioned that by increasing his attack range, it's actually a nerf, because the movement speed slow means that after following up you silence with a spin to win, you're further away from your target.

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That is how Juggernaut Champions work in general. They have extremly high damage, the highest damage in the game. But it is very hard to apply this damage to enemies.

It should also be said that Dead Man's Plate will be available as well.
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