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VexRoth - All That Is Ranked

Creator: VexRoth January 26, 2015 10:41pm
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Thoughts as of 6-18-2018.

Hiatus

Back from a hiatus from ranked play. Had a couple of lengthy camping trips which cut into my time to play so I kept it to normals when I did have time. Also patch 8.11 and patch 8.12 dropped with significant changes to the game and I wanted to see how those shook out.

State of the Game

At my level of play most people are still playing standard. I think that is still a strong way to go assuming you pick one of the ADCs that is good.

There are very few tanks being played and I get it to some extent. It feels bad when you've stacked 400+ armor and their Tryndamere can still 3 shot you because he is going 35% true damage via Conqueror + the re-worked Infinity Edge.

But I still think tanks are perfectly viable and in fact give your team a strong leg up in winning a game in the face of a team lacking a tank.

I do however want to try and get advantageous lane match-up that I feel comfortable executing on because the game is so snowbally. Or to put it another way. If my Bot lane gets stomped, I need to be in a position to wreck on the other side of the map to offset the differential.

Going neutral in lane isn't good enough unless you can pull of a Teleport play that either cements your teams lead or turns around a lane that is in danger of being a detriment that you cannot overcome by winning in other areas of the map.

And your are not always going to get that opportunity.

So winning lane and then winning your other lanes is, in my opinion, the most viable path to victory.

Top lane champion pool

I've been playing a lot of Malphite of late. His wave clear is actually pretty good with some points in Ground Slam + Iceborn Gauntlet. Against squishies if you build AP early you can actually poke them out of lane or to the point that you can easily all-in them at level 6 assuming you don't let yourself get poked out too much. And having the ability to engage or counter engage should not be left out of the discussion of his pros.

His cons are that there are some match-ups (mostly tanks) that he is basically a non-entity in. He just doesn't do enough damage to poke them out or get them low enough to all-in while he may be susceptible that in return given that he has no "sustain" other than his passive Granite Shield, which is easily blown through before you've built some health, especially now that Q Seismic Shard draws minion aggro.

Doing some research I can see that Dr. Mundo deals pretty well with some of the champions that Malphite struggles with and while he doesn't offer the engage that Malphite does, the good doctor can still be tilt inducing (a characteristic that LS suggests when looking at who to play) with how hard he is to kill with items under his belt. Bonus is that even in match-ups that he isn't that great into he can always Q Infected Bonesaw farm unless they can tank the cleavers.

And of course I never can just play one or two champions so there are some others on my radar screen that will probably enter the mix such as Kled or Illaoi.

I've thought about Singed since he has so few match-ups that he straight up loses, but I don't feel that I get the champion well enough to make good used of the mad chemist.

Quinn? Did I mention the problem that no one else on most of teams play tanks? Also I feel like she took a hit from the ADC itemization changes and the nerfs to Fleet Footwork to the point that I myself am not able to get the advantages in lane that I've sometimes managed to create with her in the past.

I feel like Rumble is actually pretty strong at the moment and his Mid game team fights are back to being close to unparallelled, so he may enter my rotation of champions given the right match-up.

I've also been practicing some Jayce. He is a lot of fun, but mechanically difficult enough that I have some questions marks about using him in ranked as I sometimes still finding myself button mashing on him. But the later is probably to be expected with only three or so games played so far.

Jungle champion pool

I'm still planning on jungle as my secondary role. I find it less tilt inducing when I don't play it all the time. I don't plan to get fancy with it. Just Graves and Udyr. I'd like to play Xin Zhao since he is strong, but I just can't seem to keep myself alive when I play him. And having a jungler with some semblance of knowing how to play the role can make the difference between a win vs. a loss.

Autofill/Support champion pool

I'm on the fence on dodging if I get the support role. I have found that I like playing Rakan so I'll put him in as a potential option if I get the role, though I'll try to get some reps on him in normals when I play with my local friends.

Current and Season Goals

I'm looking forward to try to finish the run into Gold. Third time is the charm? And hopefully higher as I still intend to make Platinum this season.




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You can poke Aatrox a little in the early game if he chooses not to switch to healing, so maybe worth it if your jungler is going to gank Top at level 2, just don't do like I did and poke him so much that you run out of mana and have your Graves and then Yasuo into into feeding Aatrox and Rengar two kills. To be fair to the Graves, Rengar had just moved into position for a lane gank and the only sign I saw of him was when he passed into the nearest lane bush.

You can't do much to him in lane other than match his waveclear and try to roam when you can, but don't let him catch you out in lane with four stacks of his passive up as he'll probably kill you if you can't dodge his knock-up.

Aatrox didn't know you could cancel the Rift Herald by CCing the person channeling it, so I prevented that thing from spawning. Too bad I got three or four manned right after that even though I asked my team for help. I was pretty busy trying to live at the time. Apparently Yasuo got waylaid on the way there and so Graves head to Mid lane. We ended up losing a Tier 1 and Tier 2 in Top in exchange for a Tier 1 in Mid, which I was not super happy about, but under the circumstances I suppose taking what we could get was the right call.

Might be worth picking up and attack speed slow after Glacial Shroud rather than finishing Iceborn Gauntlet. That does lead nicely into finishing Frozen Heart as your first item which also gives you CDR and mana. It does not however help with your waveclear as much.

Given that they had a Vayne I was not sure about what health item to build or if I should just rely on my base health under all the armor I build. Some health would help with non-% max health true damage, which Aatrox had through Conqueror.
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And dodge since my Bot lane had a combined win rate of approximately 47.5% and they were planning on playing Lux and Brand in Bot lane with very few games played. So, how do we take towers? Slowly they say. Mmmm, no thanks given the enemy team was running a traditional comp with a decent amount of bulk and CC to protect Miss Fortune.
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Aatrox picked after me two games in a row. Fun. I do like Frozen Heart vs Aatrox as a first item. The attack speed slow helps make him clip some autoattacks. Now, sitting in between him and Zed when they both had Blade of the Ruined King was a different matter.

I think Janna might be my go to ban for the moment. Athene's Unholy Grail is ******ed on her. I ulted Miss Fortune and Yasuo ulted her and we couldn't kill her through everything Janna threw on Top of her and I've had that happen in two games now.

Zed was so silly fed that he could kill the rest of my team pretty much by himself.
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Should have taken the thirty minute dodge penalty.

Team came unglued toward the end game. Hecarim was off split pushing and dying to Fizz, despite the fact that we were mopping the floor with their team when we actually engaged as a unit.

I pulled a whoopsie at one point when I forgot that Hecarim was off by himself and engaged right as Yasuo threw up a Wind Wall, which blocked a lot of our follow-up.

Yasuo wasn't a horrible match-up, just annoying in that you can't actually damage him since he always has his flow shield up and you basically only have your Q for poke. I imagine a good Yasuo would be harder.

I would like to have a couple of games where my team isn't pushing double digit deaths on most of its members.

After Irelia got caught near Bot lane it was a 3 v 4 since Hecarim was off dying to the Fizz. Zoe at about 150 health while sandwiched between three heavies and she gets mad at me for not diving into that. I made the determination that we couldn't turn it so I stayed out of the fight. I might have been able to do something about their taking Baron, but I chose to clear the wave left in Top lane instead. Given that we were probably going to lose if they had Baron, not trying something was likely a mistake on my part as it would have been a decent use of keeping myself out of the fight.
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Kind of hard to win when your Top laner ints the last half of the game. I did get *****y about it in chat when his stupidity got me killed. Dude just walk the **** away we were out clean. But noooooooo. Let's try to kite the Volibear followed up by the Darius.

I ended up laning against the Aurelion Sol, which worked out okay other than the early game being painful. Need to remember he is actually kind of tanky once he finishes Rod of Ages.

I will stay out of chat unless it is to praise or do some cheerleading.

But honestly the rest of my team got the picture after Ryze's 4th or so solo death. Dude was not playing smart if not strictly inting.
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I still hate Azir. He has too much damage and too much self-peel so even when you think you've got him you don't and in the meantime he is shredding your team. If you get passed his soldiers you should be rewarded with killing the bastard. Game went well despite our ADC having a like a 35% winrate on Jhin. Guess he has been hating the bruiser Bot lane META or something.

Game went pretty much by the numbers. Although Nocturne didn't end up with a bunch of kills he was generally in the right place at the right time and never really went in too deep. Blitzcrank hit some nice hooks.

Rumble is kind of annoying. I screwed up and didn't respect his level 6. I had lost some XP harrassing Rengar. Fizz and I killed him, but I had to blow my Flash to do it, so I didn't have it when I let myself get too low to Rumble.

Why Rumble is decent into Dr. Mundo.

1 He can tank the damage from your Infected Bonesaws with Scrap Shield.
2 He builds all the magic penetration items so even if you build MR he still hurts
3 He can slow you in kind with Electro-Harpoon which makes it hard to get on top of him
4 The Equalizer makes him a better team fighter than you.
5 He can out shove you and get damage onto you through the minion wave with Flamespitter

Had a miscommunication with Fizz about diving the Azir. He was waiting for me to clear the minion, wave, I am like Bro, I can tank the turret. So anyway, we didn't time our efforts right and ended up both dying for our misplay.
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Okay I admit to yoloing this one with Kayle first pick. I regreted my decission about level 5 or so as Camille started handing me my ***. Like initially I could trade with her if I got Press the Attack to proc, but she hit level 6 first and stomped on me like a bug. But we made it to late game I my ult came in pretty handy in a couple of situations.

It was still something of a nail biter as we had enough autoattackers that Jax was really hard to deal with. Fortunately our two big carries, Swain and Vayne were nice and fed and not idiots.

I wouldn't say our team played really well together, but we did stick it out through two or three Barons and an Elder Dragon, which is saying something for a soloqueue game.

Incidentally I may actually pick Kayle up as she fills so holes that Malphite and Dr. Mundo don't, but I won't pick her unless it is a favorable match-up because yee gawds a bad match-up really prolongs you from getting the items you need to be effective.
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Yorick early wasn't too hard to deal with. Yorick with a Maiden and a Sheen. Ouch. Basically don't get caught in his though shall not pass circle and then murder the Maiden if he leaves it unattended. This gets easier with some resistances. Yorick made a good push on Top lane while we were mixing it up in Mid and then he DCd, so fairly easy win with Kai'Sa coming on line and me doing pretty well for myself.

Trundle apparently lost a fight to Taric over a Control Ward I had placed. Might need to review that one as that ended up getting me killed by the Yorick. Taric's ult played a role in that, but I am still confused how Trundle lost a 1 v 1 vs Taric. Maybe there is something I don't know about Taric? Because Trundle doesn't lose too many 1 v 1s. Trundle did not have his ult, so that may have played role.
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