Worst item

[quote=Icuonuez][quote=davidcarl] How the heck is [[Leviathan]] useless anyway¿ Each and every item is useful in its own way until it becomes outdated and UP. [/quote] Snowball items are very iffy, because it creates an unstable build. The HP per stack of Leviathan isn't very high, and it doesn't offer any bonuses to help keep those stacks. If you manage to get 20 stacks, you're going against a completely incompetent team. If you don't get 20 stacks, then Leviathan is just a cheap hp item. Worthless any way you go about it.[/quote]

[quote=Atarios]Last time I've ever seen [[Executioner's Calling]] was in Xaioli's Twitch Guide.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/forum/champion-and-item-ideas/demacias-tiamat-7901 [quote=NicknameMy] Combination items: [[Ruby Crystal]](475) [[Sapphire Crystal]](400) [[Pickaxe]](975) [[Long Sword]](415) Combination cost: 435 Cost: 2700g [center][icon=Tiamat size=64] [color=orange][h2][b]Tiamat[/b][/h2][/color][/center] [list] [*]Effects [list] [*]+40 Attack Damage [*]+250 Health [*]+250 Mana [/list] [*]Unique Passive(Does not stack with Demacia's Tiamat): [list] [*]Your attacks splash, dealing physical damage in a small area around the target (50% for melee, 40% in combination with an ability([[Parrrley]],[[Siphoning Strike]], etc..), 35% for ranged).(Range:300) [/list] [/list] That means for Demacia's Tiamat: Combination items: [[Avarice Blade]](750g) + [[Tiamat]](2700g) Combination cost: 500g Cost: 4050g [center][icon=tiamat size=64] [color=orange][h2][b]Demacia's Tiamat[/b][/h2][/color][/center] [list] [*]Effects [list] [*]+45 Attack Damage [*]+300 Health [*]+300 Mana [*]+15% Critical Strike [/list] [*]Unique Passive(Does not stack with [[Tiamat]]): [list] [*]Your attacks splash, dealing physical damage in a small area around the target (50% for melee, 40% in combination with an ability([[Parrrley]], [[Siphoning Strike]], etc..), 35% for ranged).(Range:400) [*]5% Cooldown Reduction [/list] [*]Unique Active: [list] [*]Increases Splash Range and Splash Damage by 50% for 4 seconds. Attacking or casting succesfull abilities with on-hit effects([[Parrrley]], etc..) on enemies increases the duration by 2 seconds to a maximum of 8 seconds. 60 second cooldown. [/list] [/list] This item + [[atma's impaler]] = GODLIKE! Also the splash range gets particles, so you can see the range. Note: Splash doesn't scale with crit. [/quote] That way [[Tiamat]] would be usefull. But well, actually, it is uselss.[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Buying sorc shoes on supports is just kinda silly, you're doing such pathetic damage to begin with that the difference will be completely negligable. Mercs or Ionian are imo the only good boots for supports, unless I forgot something. Having 15% less cooldowns on all your skills will make a bigger difference than like...+5 or so damage on only your offensive skills.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS][quote=Luther3000] Buying sorc shoes on supports is just kinda silly, you're doing such pathetic damage to begin with that the difference will be completely negligable. Mercs or Ionian are imo the only good boots for supports, unless I forgot something. Having 15% less cooldowns on all your skills will make a bigger difference than like...+5 or so damage on only your offensive skills. [/quote] I've seen Xerath's build them in game....And then I crush them. Late game Morello's or DFG can take the CDR spot. Boots...On an AP Cary should 90% of the time be Sorcs (IMO)[/quote]

[quote=Luther3000]Xerath and AP carries are not support. :D Just about every AP carry should buy sorc shoes, because on them the MPen actually makes a difference to their damage.[/quote]

[quote=Mastarwe][quote=davidcarl] How the heck is [[Leviathan]] useless anyway¿ Each and every item is useful in its own way until it becomes outdated and UP. [/quote] The thing is that [[Leviathan]] is better then [[Giant's Belt]] (similar price) first at 11 stacks, which you won't get that easily. Might aswell buy a belt and be sure about having the hp, aswell as being able to build it into something more useful.[/quote]

[quote=Xenasis][quote=IceCreamy] [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity]] on supports? NO! I will dance on your grave when I pwn you with my [[Sorcerer's Shoes]]! I can buy other support items such as [[Deathfire Grasp]] and [[Soul Shroud]] to get my CDR on a support. imo they have use (but only very small) on champions like [[Renekton]] and [[Gangplank]]. But I still think that they can buy better boots. [/quote] Have fun reaching a DFG or Soul Shroud after - Boots, 3 GP10 items (that's up to ~3500 already), 10-20 wards (1.5k-3k) and an Aegis (~2k), and don't try and tell me that other support items should be prioritised before those... Sorcs are bad on supports, even ones without healing like Janna or GP. You deal minimal damage, but getting off that extra CC or extra shield can save someone's ass.[/quote]

[quote=PotatisFarfar]Only support i would ever buy sorc boots on is Alistar. And that is when i only lvl 1 point in his heal...[/quote]

[quote=IceCreamy][quote=Xenasis] [quote=IceCreamy] [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity]] on supports? NO! I will dance on your grave when I pwn you with my [[Sorcerer's Shoes]]! I can buy other support items such as [[Deathfire Grasp]] and [[Soul Shroud]] to get my CDR on a support. imo they have use (but only very small) on champions like [[Renekton]] and [[Gangplank]]. But I still think that they can buy better boots. [/quote] Have fun reaching a DFG or Soul Shroud after - Boots, 3 GP10 items (that's up to ~3500 already), 10-20 wards (1.5k-3k) and an Aegis (~2k), and don't try and tell me that other support items should be prioritised before those... Sorcs are bad on supports, even ones without healing like Janna or GP. You deal minimal damage, but getting off that extra CC or extra shield can save someone's ass. [/quote] Do remember that the gp/5 items give you LOADS of gold to spend. Along with the shitload of assists you good it should not take that long to get those items. Perhaps [[Mercury's Treads]] are better then [[Sorcerer's Shoes]], but I will never ever in my whole life buy [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity]] on [u]any[/u] champion. And btw I'm not buying 10-20 wards in early game... I have a team too, I'm not alone when it comes to warding. It's a common mistake many people make: "Hey we have a support, he/she is in charge of buying all wards and I don't have to do shit!" Wrong, because it's only 75 gold for one and it helps you so much - don't forget supports are not Lamborghini's, they can't go that fast :P[/quote]