Click to open network menu
Join or Log In
Mobafire logo

Join the leading League of Legends community. Create and share Champion Guides and Builds.

Create an MFN Account






Or

MOBAFire's first Mini Guide Contest of Season 14 is here! Create or update guides for the 30 featured champions and compete for up to $200 in prizes! 🏆
's Forum Avatar

jhoijhoi's review & discussion service

Creator: jhoijhoi June 29, 2011 5:44pm
jhoijhoi
<MOBAFire Mother>
jhoijhoi's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
14438
Joined:
Mar 20th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 28, 2011 9:30pm | Report
The problem with yellow is that when I re-review guides I say "Edit:" and it's in yellow.
guide writing tips 'n tricksashes to ashesfancy a sig?

♡ sig by thenamelessbard ♡
Nighthawk
<Veteran>
Nighthawk's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
10094
Joined:
Dec 7th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 28, 2011 9:34pm | Report
Use that blue in your sig then, that's fine with me.


Lugignaf
<Veteran>
Lugignaf's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
10968
Joined:
Feb 8th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 28, 2011 10:41pm | Report
Nighthawk wrote:

A wild NIGHTHAWK appeared! Wild NIGHTHAWK used Review Guide!

Review for: Lugignaf's Udyr Guide
Constructive Criticism
  • Okay so first of all, I notice your starting item is a ca + 5 like normal. However it would be nice if you mentioned some different starting routes besides just ca. There's stuff like a Long Sword, Boots, Dagger and Iron Mantle jungling, where a Long Sword would be best, probably followed by a Dagger (I feel I need to do some testing to find out the times on each of those))
  • Secondly...you know I love Wilding Claw bro...but...that nerf on his ratio leaves me wondering whether or not it's remotely as fast as it used to be and whether it might just be better to go with Wingborne Storm for jungling.
  • Uhm, your items now/ :O I like the general items for sure, but...I am kinda surprised you mentioned Hexdrinker but not Warmog's Armor. If you go Warmog's you can go armor/lvl with no problems, combined with mr/lvl and a banshee's + atma's makes you more tanky then your current build (surprising right :O).
  • I like Wriggle's too, but atm there's no real incentive for them to focus you, so I recommend a bloodrazor or a triforce. Bloodrazor is better for Tiger Udyr though.
  • Forgot to mention that about your routes you can mention starting at wolves, red and small golems as well. Stonewall video would be perfect here too.
  • Aegis is great on Udyr, and I would consider replacing Frozen Heart with it if the enemy team isn't completely made up of melee/ranged carries cause you get a fair amount of mr from it.
  • Not quite convinced about how good Guinsoo's Rageblade is compared to a Triforce...just not seeing the AP all that useful tbh. And you already have tons of AS from Tiger, soooo.

Verdict:

Like it. Has nice formatting. Could use a couple of screenshots and videos but is still good. Feels short but is pretty well explained.

Head on down to Jhoi's review page if you want to catch me for some more comments, or pm me. I'll try and check back here, but I post a lot and tend to forget where I posted >.>


1. Yes I know I just mentioned the most common. I was also going off the most aggressive routes. Turtle jungling is slow IMO and I don't like it.

2. Just played it in a normal. The nerf on tiger did almost nothing to his jungle time. Also, I don't appreciate you trying to force Phoenix jungling on my clearly Tiger styled guide. So... tyvm.

3. Don't have an answer to this as these are just theories. i have never had to deviate from the main item path too often.

4. I talked this over with Jet. (I know. Terrible idea.) He pointed out that, after the "bug fix" of Turtle proccing on Madred's Razors, you don't have a reliable sustain as much anymore and this is essential. Testing it in a few other games, I have to agree. Bloodrazor doesn't bring a whole lot to the table compared to Lantern. Sure you heal a bit more off Turtle but, unless they are stacking HP it's not worth it to lose out on a free ward.

5. I totally spaced out on Aegis. I'll put it in the alt items.

6. The AP is more for if your transitioning to "tower push" mode because of how it works with Phoenix. The AS is a nice bonus and also factors well into your tower push speed.
True love is found only in yourself.
Searz
<Ancient Member>
Searz's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
13418
Joined:
Jun 6th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 29, 2011 2:21am | Report

Whaaat? Typo?

EVERYTHING> Expanded Mind ...
"You can't have your privacy violated if you don't know your privacy is violated." - Mike Rogers, U.S. Representative for Michigan's 8th congressional district, 2013
I.e: Mike Rogers doesn't think it's rape unless the victim knows (s)he has been raped. Sounds legit.
jhoijhoi
<MOBAFire Mother>
jhoijhoi's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
14438
Joined:
Mar 20th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 29, 2011 4:38am | Report
No typo, he had Perseverance instead of Expanded Mind . Then I said Greed > Expanded Mind .

^^
guide writing tips 'n tricksashes to ashesfancy a sig?

♡ sig by thenamelessbard ♡
Freddy Shopan
<Member>
Freddy Shopan's Forum Avatar
Posts:
526
Joined:
Jul 16th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 29, 2011 4:40am | Report
The suggestions for the last one were so good, I had to ask again! My second guide! I just finished today! :P

Guide For (champion): Sona
Why I'd like this to be Reviewed: Back for another! And I'm not quite as sure about this one.
What I'd like you to focus on: The feeling of the second half (on gameplay, warding, clairvoyance. All of that stuff). It doesn't look clean to me for some reason.
Guide Link: This one!

EDIT: OHHHHHHH. It's 'cuz I have no pictures, huh?
EDIT NUMBAH 2: Okiedoke! Try reading it now! :]
Goffterdom
<Member>
Goffterdom's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
111
Joined:
Jul 11th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 29, 2011 4:54am | Report
Thanks so much for your review lady

Dont know if I should post this here but meeh.

1) Going to test other runes for glyphes.

2) Quicksilver Sash allow you to debuff whenever you want, Banshee's Veil often forces enemies to cast a useless spell on you before actually nuking your face out of your body. About Youmuu's Ghostblade, as I said in my guide, I'm not taking this because it's active cost too much in the item price considering Highlander already gives you cocaïne. AS cap is 2.5 if I remember well, using both Youmu and your ultimate is too much imho.

3) Fixed

4) Fixed some mistakes but not all of them.

5) Fixed, sorry for such a silly mistake.

6) To improve presentation. Thanks btw !

7) Hmm, didnt find it.

8) With the "[ Goto ]" functions ? And "[ Anchor ]" ? I tried it for a french guide but either the site bugged yesterday either it makes my firefox crash.

9) No, sorry but I like them :P

10) Hmm, I would ! It defenitively is gold efficient if you manage to play well. Especially to save gold for something else than B. F. Sword.

11) I dont mind at all !

12) Ability Mechanisms looks like a more "technical section" imho and should appear at the end of the guide if I follow the same logic than the rest.



So finally, I thank you again. Because you Vet Vote me. My guide is at the top of the list. Wtf ! Thanks you so much.
Your review has been really appreciated too, I'll likely add videos !

My Guides

Jungle Yi
Ranked Kassadin (French Guide)
Ranked Leblanc


____________________________________________________________________________
Piksel4o
<Member>
Piksel4o's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
183
Joined:
Feb 12th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 29, 2011 4:55am | Report
Thanks to Alexanpt and wRAthoFVuLK for the AWESOME sigs!
Tol Eressea
<Member>
Tol Eressea's Forum Avatar
Posts:
26
Joined:
Jul 18th, 2011
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 29, 2011 6:54am | Report
Thanks very much to Nighthawk for taking the time. I'd still appreciate a glance or two by jhoijhoi if she has a free moment, but I wanted to stop by and let you know I've already updated it to address a number of the legitimate concerns/questions posed by Nighthawk.

All the best,
Tol
Searz
<Ancient Member>
Searz's Forum Avatar
Show more awards
Posts:
13418
Joined:
Jun 6th, 2010
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep July 29, 2011 6:57am | Report
jhoijhoi wrote:

No typo, he had Perseverance instead of Expanded Mind . Then I said Greed > Expanded Mind .

^^

Well.. still:
Searz wrote:

EVERYTHING> Expanded Mind
"Blizzard spoke thus; Thou shalt not BM. And the players replied Nay, I shall Play my hand with Lethal already on the board. And so Blizzard sent unto them this Brawl of Yogg, As a lesson for their sins of Pride and Greed, for he is the Prophet of Madness and RNG. On that day, the tavern descended into an era of chaos and darkness, until the weekend passed and everyone forgot all about it. Amen. Book of SMOrc, Verse 20, Chapter 4." - Feam T

You need to log in before commenting.

League of Legends Champions:

Teamfight Tactics Guide