Worst item

[quote=DuffTime][quote=Nighthawk] It's 400 G more then a BF Sword and gives 5 more AD, that in itself is worthwhile, right? [/quote] Nope. :P[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk][quote=DuffTime] [quote=Nighthawk] It's 400 G more then a BF Sword and gives 5 more AD, that in itself is worthwhile, right? [/quote] Nope. :P [/quote] Really? I'm not looking at what BF Builds into, just bf sword itself.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]People don't just buy [[B. F. Sword]]s and say "okay, now I have enough damage." The whole point of the item is to build it into the 3 epic items - [[Infinity Edge]], [[The Black Cleaver]], or [[The Bloodthirster]]. [[Tiamat]] builds into nothing. It's too expensive for a disposable item, and too weak for a late game item. There's really no place for it in my opinion, which makes it "bad" or unviable. I dislike [[Moonflair Spellblade]] and (to a lesser extent) [[Cloak and Dagger]] for a similar reason - the stats and price are suited to early game, while you need the tenacity late game. The tenacity items really need a price and stat increase to make them better options ([[Eleisa's Miracle]] is fine since it builds out of philo stone). Random thought, if [[Moonflair Spellblade]] built out of [[Kage's Lucky Pick]] and [[Cloak and Dagger]] built out of [[Avarice Blade]], I'd bet they'd be better disposable items, since it's much easier to buy a gold/10 item like [[Philosopher's Stone]] and just upgrade it to [[Eleisa's Miracle]] when needed. [[Leviathan]] has a bad stack-to-stat ratio compared to the other items, and it doesn't even help you snowball. At least [[Mejai's Soulstealer]] and [[Sword of the Occult]] give you some offense so you can get more stacks. [[Leviathan]] just makes you tankier, which is nice, but probably won't net you as many kills and assists. True, it may have a place in certain circumstances (Duff mentioned [[Sona]], who can stack it up with assists thanks to her auras), but I don't think it really shines on anyone. It may be usable, but I still think it's terrible. I also think SotO is terrible, while Mejai's is possible on a couple champions ([[Lux]] has range, [[Anivia]] has her egg, [[Soraka]] has a global ult, and [[Sona]] has constant auras). I don't like [[Executioner's Calling]] because it's outclassed by [[Ignite]] which EVERY team should have at least one of (unless the enemy team really doesn't have any heals, maybe). It's simply worse than most other items, and it's use is SO SITUATIONAL (you need to have 0 ignites AND a strong healer on the other team) that I think it's just badly designed. When it is needed, it works really well though. [[Sword of the Divine]] is similarly a niche item. How many Dodge stackers are there in the game? 3 - [[Jax]], [[Udyr]] and [[Sivir]] (unless I'm missing someone). How many actually need to be countered with this item? 1 - [[Jax]]. Out of the 80+ champions in the game, you only need this item to counter one. If that's not a niche item, I don't know what is. The stats on SotD aren't too terrible, but if you aren't facing a [[Jax]], you might as well get something else instead.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]What Psiguard said about the BF thing. :P To be honest I've never got an SotD even against a Jax :P[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Executioner's Calling is useful. It's a solid transitional life steal item if you're having trouble building your Blood Thirster. (I tend to get it on Tryndamere, and it works just fine) Additionally it will become a go to weapon once ignite no longer applies its mortal strike debuff.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]@Duff: It's pretty nice in dominion. In SR, you generally just focus somebody else and CC Jax, but in dominion you pretty much have to 1v1 whoever comes up to you. @Jeffy: Out of all the items I've mentioned, EC and SotD are the more acceptable items. I just included them because I think they're too situational.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]SoTD I can agree is situational, but solid lifesteal and crit+an MS active that an AD carry can use while having Exhaust on their focus as well? IMO EC is just ignored because people are all about the BF sword items. It's not situational, just underutilized.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][[Wriggle's Lantern]] is amazing, even for laners for a variety of reasons. [[Stark's Fervor]] (or just [[Emblem of Valour]]) is pretty good, and at least has a nice aura. [[The Bloodthirster]] provides the most lifesteal and a ton of raw power. [[Doran's Blade]] is stackable, provides a lot of stats per gold, and can be bought very early. [[Hextech Gunblade]] is a great hybrid item, provides a ton of lifesteal and spellvamp, gives AD and AP, and has a useful slow for an active. [[Executioner's Calling]] gives an okay amount of lifesteal, a little bit of CrC and a very situational active. Like I said, it's not a bad item. It's just outclassed by the other lifesteal items.[/quote]

[quote=DuffTime]Oh. I think Dominion is the most boring thing ever, so. :P[/quote]

[quote=Ruin Sage][quote=PsiGuard] [[Wriggle's Lantern]] is amazing, even for laners for a variety of reasons. [[Stark's Fervor]] (or just [[Emblem of Valour]]) is pretty good, and at least has a nice aura. [[The Bloodthirster]] provides the most lifesteal and a ton of raw power. [[Doran's Blade]] is stackable, provides a lot of stats per gold, and can be bought very early. [[Hextech Gunblade]] is a great hybrid item, provides a ton of lifesteal and spellvamp, gives AD and AP, and has a useful slow for an active. [[Executioner's Calling]] gives an okay amount of lifesteal, a little bit of CrC and a very situational active. Like I said, it's not a bad item. It's just outclassed by the other lifesteal items. [/quote] You also are not considering the cost. It costs less than even [[Wriggle's Lantern]] and provides the same life steal. I get it on people like GP, where every aspect of this item is good.[/quote]