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Nocturne Build Guide by PsiGuard


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PsiGuard Last updated on September 15, 2017
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PsiGuard (984) | September 15, 2017 4:20pm
Updated and reorganized the build to accentuate the early Duskblade of Draktharr more and removed some of the tank options that I felt were inferior. Also took out the early Tiamat to fit in Duskblade early in the build.

Added Statikk Shiv and Infinity Edge as options for those who like crit builds. Personally, I rarely build these items as they usually feel too greedy compared to other options, but they can be effective if you don't die, basically. Better DPS than just lethality items.
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Yamikazexz (10) | September 15, 2017 6:51pm
What about that ghostblade --> eon --> duskblade build?
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PsiGuard (984) | September 16, 2017 11:22am
Not sure if meming but Duskblade is way better on Nocturne. You could go Dusk > Ghost > EoN or Dusk > EoN > Ghost if you want.
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Yamikazexz (10) | September 15, 2017 1:50pm
How do you play Nocturne in the Middle Lane?
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PsiGuard (984) | September 15, 2017 4:25pm
Just read @ Yamikazexz's Talon guide and in game you pretend it's Talon instead of Nocturne. Should work flawlessly.
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Yamikazexz (10) | September 15, 2017 6:54pm
PsiGuard wrote:
Just read @ Yamikazexz's Talon guide and in game you pretend it's Talon instead of Nocturne. Should work flawlessly.


I believe the phrase you're looking for is "budget talon"
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Hoppermh (17) | September 15, 2017 2:25pm
support?
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PsiGuard (984) | September 15, 2017 4:26pm
You're more experienced than me in that area. I'd build Duskblade of Draktharr if you're fed though. ;)
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F Darkness | September 2, 2017 3:56pm
So as a Nocturne main with ~400k now, I've always loved the AD/Lethality build on Nocturne but when lategame is there, you'll get a hard time. So I've tried a few builds in Normal games and this is what I came up to: Razorblade (blue or red ur choice) BOTRK, Steraks Gage, Gargoyle, Mallet and boots. Can you try out this build and share your review? With as/cdr-level runes and some ad
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PsiGuard (984) | September 2, 2017 4:22pm
You're right that bruiser builds (with attack speed usually) tend to scale better into team fights. You can still win late game with AD/lethality builds, but you have to time your ultimate right and kill one of the carries with the help of someone else on your team usually.

Personally I like Lethality a lot better for the early and mid game though. If you prefer attack speed and tankier items don't let me stop you, haha.

I'll see if I can play a couple games with this kind of build in the future. I did something similar several patches ago though.
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F Darkness | September 2, 2017 5:26pm
Thanks for your fast comment. I'd like to introduce the build more though. Moderate damage, you know that since Noc main, and if you go ham 1v5 (team can catch up) it's okay and u won't die in a few sec because: Instant 3 enemy plus gargoyle active+passive, and the shield of Steraks gage, a total of 10k hp to burn down combined with Frozen mallet for about 3/4 seconds. This has carried me alot of games in Platinum I now
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JamaicanJamma | August 22, 2017 1:54pm
love this guide. use it as a reference all the time. question: rush hydra, or is nightblade preferred? i think damage spike is great but comes too late in the game if rush hydra first.
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PsiGuard (984) | August 22, 2017 1:57pm
I recommend rushing just the Tiamat and sitting on that for a while. Duskblade of Draktharr is a great damage spike as you said. You can finish Ravenous Hydra later in the game after you've finished some more important items.
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JamaicanJamma | August 22, 2017 7:59pm
thanks
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2Alpha1 (4) | July 30, 2017 8:55am
(Facepalm) Why isn't this build the recommended one yet? :^)
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PsiGuard (984) | July 21, 2017 8:17pm
It's face-lift day! Refactored the guide into one chapter with a custom table of contents, new banners and new headers. Thanks to @ MissMaw for her help with all the graphics! :)

Also added a brief Warding section.
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volvagia46 | July 13, 2017 5:41pm
Hey! love your write ups and all, but as a 400k mastery noc main myself, i am wondering why you dont have death dance in your build at all or any crit or bloodrazer builds? PD-IE-DD is an exceptionally strong build right now (with warlords) and it scales much better than one shot builds; and bloodrazer builds utilizing BC and/or BOTRK shred tanks like no other. Is there any reason you prefer this lethality style build (not even max lethality though) to other styles, such as crit (which has experienced a cost reduction in recent patches?)
NOTE: the movement speed bug on PD was just removed last patch.
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PsiGuard (984) | July 13, 2017 5:59pm
I realize a lot of people play Nocturne differently with different builds. I've seen all sorts of stuff like Cinderhulk + Titanic, Bloodrazor + Cleaver and the crit build you mentioned. Basically I only want to include suggestions in my guide that I have enough experience with and feel comfortable recommending to other players. That doesn't mean that there are no other viable builds, just that I'm not going to recommend them to my readers.

I spent some time with the crit build and it does feel pretty powerful (I'd say roughly on par with lethality with better DPS against tankier targets), but I found it pretty lacking in CDR and flexibility. If you're going crit you really need 2 items to get going (PD/Shiv and IE) which doesn't leave you much room for defense or CDR. It feels good when ahead and not great from behind, which to me didn't seem to provide much benefit over my usual playstyle, so I stuck with lethality.

As for Bloodrazor builds, they just seem really weak at actually killing carries which is too important for the way I play Nocturne. I used Devourer + BotRK a long time ago but I'm not happy with the Bloodrazor power spike, whether it's with BotRK or Cleaver or both. It always takes several seconds longer to kill carries which just leaves me feeling pretty vulnerable. You definitely have to play this kind of build quite differently and I don't have much success with it, so it's hard for me to recommend to others.

As for Death's Dance, it seemed pretty promising after the buff but I already have a ton of CDR sources in my build so it's usually overkill in that department. It overlaps a lot with Ravenous Hydra and I felt Hydra did the job better. The only advantage DD has over Hydra is the bleed, which in my experience wasn't terribly helpful on Nocturne compared to other champions. I didn't find myself in situations where I could sustain through lethal damage or escape with 1 HP. I could see it being better with a crit build which has higher DPS, especially since it helps offset the low CDR from that build.

tl;dr: I recommend lethality and mixed defense items because I have the most success with them and feel comfortable recommending them to others. Lots of people make other builds work all the way up to Challenger so I don't claim to have the only viable playstyle.

I hope that answers your questions, thanks for the comment.
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PsiGuard (984) | July 13, 2017 4:29pm
Updated the build and items section for 7.14's lethality changes. Mostly this means switching to a Duskblade of Draktharr rush over Youmuu's Ghostblade. I also added an early Tiamat and put more emphasis on Ravenous Hydra late game. I think the lifesteal is more valuable late than most other stats.

Also fixed the abilities sequence section since it had a few broken images and some parts weren't updated to show the new skill order.

Looking to do a bit of a visual overhaul in the future but hopefully this update helps you guys adjust to the new patch. Enjoy! :)
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zxhy | July 4, 2017 5:39am
Thanks for the guide
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Night42mare | July 2, 2017 1:56pm
So you no longer rush a bork?
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PsiGuard (984) | July 2, 2017 2:58pm
Welcome back! Yes, I stopped building attack speed when the Devourer enchantment was removed and replaced with Bloodrazor. Attack speed builds still work decently, but I find building AD/Lethality to be much more reliable.
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PsiGuard (984) | June 30, 2017 11:49pm
Added a few short clips to the guide (in the Abilities and Ganking chapters). I'll try to add more video content to my guides in the future since I know some people learn more from examples rather than reading. Might take some time for me to 1) come up with suitable ideas and 2) create clips from my games to exemplify them.

Hope you guys find that useful!
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VexRoth (45) | June 9, 2017 7:15am
Hey PsiGuard,

Not sure if this is guide worthy (maybe as Counter Tip/Trick?) or if I might have missed mention of it, but you can spot out Duskbringer's trail during a Nocturne ult by cycling through your F keys as the trail is dark enough to show against the ult overlay.
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PsiGuard (984) | June 9, 2017 12:09pm
Interesting tip! I don't think I'll include it in the guide though since this is a guide for playing Nocturne and not playing against him.
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VexRoth (45) | June 9, 2017 5:56pm
PsiGuard wrote:
Interesting tip! I don't think I'll include it in the guide though since this is a guide for playing Nocturne and not playing against him.


Uh, right. Nothing to see here folks. Move along. Move along.

Picked it up from an LS coaching video. Actually tried it in a game when I was verses a Nocturne at it works. I was able to figure out which lane he was ganking.
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MyIgnoranceParty | November 10, 2012 10:44am
Do you think that the new jungle changes are going to change the way Nocturne is able to jungle? It seems like it puts him at a bit of a disadvantage.
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